Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 13-01-2018, 18:54   #1
Marine Service Provider
 
Schooner Chandlery's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: home port Washington DC
Boat: SS Crocker design #131
Posts: 986
Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

We all don't want to see marinas shut down without reason. There is one in the Bay area that could go bankrupt fighting a government shakedown. You can help stop the BCDC Shakedown of Westpoint Harbor marina in Redwood City CA. Read the details on the change . org site here's a link

The marina owner and the government have been at odds for a long time but they've recently thrown the book at him without even thinking about the logic of the violations.

Examples? He must have public access to the guest berths. He does: if any boat comes in, they can tie up and use the guest berths. They've reinterpreted this "public access" to mean that the pedestrians must have access to the docks for walking, running, riding their bikes, walking their dogs, etc. Similarly strange, they want the bathrooms open and unlocked 24/7 for the "public" even though the police say it's not safe. And they've decided that marking the channel means having a line of buoys down the center line of it (not the red and green markers....) and the harbor must provide that. Further violations that they're charging him with include "preventing public access" by having the "public parking" written on the pavement instead of on signs at the head of each parking place. They think the public can't see the pavement or something. That includes the DRIVE THROUGH parking places for boats on trailers. A sign in the middle of each one (preventing drive through, yes) would make them happy. Let's see...well, you get my drift. There are many fines and many allegations. The goal seems to be to bankrupt the owner and shut down the marina.

Please take the time to go read the petition, sign it, share it with your friends so they can do so too. The petition is to ask the state auditor to look into the matter.

You can read a bunch of background information here as well.

Thanks!
__________________

__________________
"The only noble thing a man can do with money is to build a schooner." Robert Louis Stevenson
Schooner Chandlery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-01-2018, 04:31   #2
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 7,376
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Petition signed
__________________

__________________
Paul
Paul L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-01-2018, 09:54   #3
Registered User
 
lonesoldier0408's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2013
Boat: Luger, Southwind, 21
Posts: 368
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Signed
lonesoldier0408 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-01-2018, 10:05   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 11,189
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Geez....California...
belizesailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-01-2018, 14:09   #5
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 439
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Won't do any good. Got kicked out of a Redwood City marina years ago so they could fill it in and build - about 9 years later....
Flyingriki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-01-2018, 14:32   #6
Registered User
 
danielamartindm's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
Boat: Leopard 39
Posts: 860
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:

If it moves, tax it; if it keeps moving, regulate it; and if it stops moving, subsidize it."

-President Ronald Reagan
danielamartindm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-01-2018, 15:05   #7
Senior Cruiser
 
bletso's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Louisville, KY
Boat: Globe, cutter/ketch,38
Posts: 689
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

It sounds like there is someone who wants to put up some condo's to enrich the tax base.
__________________
www.sailboatvigah.com Boats don't like being neglected, but then neither do significant others!
bletso is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-01-2018, 13:13   #8
Marine Service Provider
 
fstbttms's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 3,932
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Signed and shared.
fstbttms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-01-2018, 13:22   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 11,189
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Quote:
Originally Posted by bletso View Post
It sounds like there is someone who wants to put up some condo's to enrich the tax base.
Sounds like that to me too. Petitions are nice, but rarely effective. If you really want to upset the apple cart then find out who the municipality is in bed with and get that story on the local news.
belizesailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-01-2018, 13:32   #10
Marine Service Provider
 
fstbttms's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 3,932
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Quote:
Originally Posted by belizesailor View Post
Sounds like that to me too. Petitions are nice, but rarely effective. If you really want to upset the apple cart then find out who the municipality is in bed with and get that story on the local news.
The municipality is not involved.
fstbttms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-01-2018, 14:27   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 11,189
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Quote:
Originally Posted by fstbttms View Post
The municipality is not involved.
Then whatever branch of government that is trying to drive this guy out of business.
belizesailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-01-2018, 17:38   #12
Marine Service Provider
 
Schooner Chandlery's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: home port Washington DC
Boat: SS Crocker design #131
Posts: 986
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

There's a new Latitude38 article on this here for those of you who are interested. I, too, believe there's more to it than a simple case. Please sign and share everywhere. Those of you in the Bay area, there is a BCDC meeting on this issue on Thursday, January 18th. There are a lot of public comments there already, read them if you'd like in the agenda materials.
__________________
"The only noble thing a man can do with money is to build a schooner." Robert Louis Stevenson
Schooner Chandlery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-01-2018, 20:05   #13
Marine Service Provider
 
Schooner Chandlery's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: home port Washington DC
Boat: SS Crocker design #131
Posts: 986
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Quote:
Originally Posted by belizesailor View Post
Then whatever branch of government that is trying to drive this guy out of business.
Bay Conservation and Development Commission -- they represent the 9 local governments around the Bay (who used to regulate and give permits for development projects) as well as some state agencies but don't have oversight by anyone. Reports directly to the governor's office but the governor has a lot more to think about than this little agency.
__________________
"The only noble thing a man can do with money is to build a schooner." Robert Louis Stevenson
Schooner Chandlery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-01-2018, 21:39   #14
Marine Service Provider
 
Schooner Chandlery's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: home port Washington DC
Boat: SS Crocker design #131
Posts: 986
Re: Petition signatures needed to help a marina in California

Update -- the BCDC backed down (a bit) and put off sending the official CDO to their full commission for action. In the meanwhile, the petition out there for boaters or concerned parties to sign is still available. Feel free to sign and share! There are over 4,000 signatures right now. https://www.change.org/p/westpoint-harbor
__________________

__________________
"The only noble thing a man can do with money is to build a schooner." Robert Louis Stevenson
Schooner Chandlery is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cal, california

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Turks and Caicos Development Petition Canibul Atlantic & the Caribbean 5 24-04-2008 18:15
Petition to keep cats in Olympics sneuman Multihull Sailboats 4 23-11-2007 09:34



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:04.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.