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Old 27-02-2013, 04:30   #76
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Its funny that the USCG mispronounces it!

The only place in the world and they have to claim they are right instead of correcting themselves.
Hilarious, as always, but never surprising when it comes to "international" standards or protocols!
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Old 27-02-2013, 04:31   #77
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Now, about that word Bouy .
Boy, don't get me started on this one
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Old 27-02-2013, 04:35   #78
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Its funny that the USCG mispronounces it!

The only place in the world and they have to claim they are right instead of correcting themselves.

Prepare to be boarded for a pronunciation inspection.
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Old 27-02-2013, 04:38   #79
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FFS.... can't you lot get anything right.. its..

"Porn Porn... Porn Porn... Porn Porn....

Sheesh...
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Old 27-02-2013, 04:51   #80
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FFS.... can't you lot get anything right.. its..

"Porn Porn... Porn Porn... Porn Porn....

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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON

It kills me that
1: this is 6 pages
2: that some people who want boat NOW are being SO SERIOUS and
3: that we have had ZILLIONS of French words and not ONE French joke!
4: that a discussion of pronunciation over the internet could result in US bashing from people with funny accents!
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Ok so since no one has pointed it out, why are all the emergency words in French? Are they really that bad of sailors or boat builders or just have really rough sailing grounds! So there is the first joke!
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Ok so since no one has pointed it out, why are all the emergency words in French? Are they really that bad of sailors or boat builders or just have really rough sailing grounds! So there is the first joke!
Thank you!!!!!!
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Wow. Amazing. The ITU clearly defines how it should be pronounced, and for anyone who wants to hear it pronounced properly there is Google Translate. Yet the debate goes on and on.

Ain't the internet grand?
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Go to Brooklyn, NY, and ask a native their to speak it. If its pon pon, pan pan, porn porn, pen pen, or pin pin, there is a good chance it will sound like pawn pawn. My parents are natives of Brooklyn and I know.

They both say dis and dat when dey gotda go da batchuum.
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Wow. Amazing. The ITU clearly defines how it should be pronounced, and for anyone who wants to hear it pronounced properly there is Google Translate. Yet the debate goes on and on.

Ain't the internet grand?
The world is full with forces that attack the old, established ways, values and principles. It is inside everyone of us and everybody deals with it differently. Like the dark force, kind of ... let it win, you must not!

In this case I think some CF members have an unrealistic view of the USCG and think they wrote the book. I don't think they are not up to their jobs, because they are doing a good job every day, but they are not the best and they certainly didn't write the book. That is tough to find out I guess.


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Boy, don't get me started on this one
You mean "boo-ee?" How about "lee-ward" versus "loo-erd"? Or "fore-castle" versus "foak-sill"? Or my favourite: "Grom-it" versus "grum-mit".



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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON

I heard 2 Pan Pans called out by the Coast Guard coming down the coast. No pon pons or bon bons or don dons.
Both times the USCG let somebody else do the rescue. I think it was too cold or something.
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON

Evidently Jedi knows more than Chapman!
But realistically.... why announce "Bread, Bread" when in distress?
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON

French was, for many years, the international language of diplomacy and even into the 50's it was the preferred "lingua franca" for travelers. By that time of course, it was established radio code.

That the US aviation industry and WW2 managed to change that and make US YnGlitch into the world's second language is only recent history. The ITU still regulates international radio affairs and they're not going to change what works.

Then too, it can't hurt that the French have (unles they've disbanded it?) the Academie Francaise, which sets quite formal national policy on what the French Language is and isn't, and if if they say the correct word for a beef patty is "'amburger" that's what it is. They do actually have formal control over how things shall be said.

That we in the US can't figure out how to transliterate things correctly, that we can't figure out whether to spell "PON" or "PAN" when we probably mean "PAHN", is something else again. If you ever look at the official and standard ways to spell Chinese and Arabic words in any form of YnGlitch...Please, do tell me which speech impediment turns Beijing into Peking, or why Islamist terrorists can't get their names spelled twice the same way by any one Westerner.

Why are so many US men named Stephen, unable to call themselves anything but Steven? What, the delivery room nurses were all illiterate and wrote it down wrong?

Or as they say on too many urban streets, "don't axe me that question."
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