Jolly Roger, Pirates and Political Correctness

[rgscpat]

Originally Posted by Patient

...if I see that flag when coming in to drop the hook I coast an extra 100 yards ....

So, folks, if you want extra room in the anchorage, all you need to do is fly the Death Head or hoist ye Inflatable Orca ;-()

[tropicalescape]

Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey

Yeah, disgusting



I'd never been to a Barmitzvah before..........But I won first prize

Mark, I think you need to get laid...........

you won because either they were 1.Afraid of you or 2 .they were Afraid of you! DVC

[NeptunesTrident]

Personaly, I will fly my Jolly Roger, when, where and how I want. Upside down if it pleases me that day. And those that don't like it, well, thats just to bad. It's MY boat, MY flag and My decision.

Glamorizing the "pirate" lifestyle indeed! How many modern day pirates fly the Jolly Roger? For that matter, how many former pirates flew the Jolly Roger? For the most part, plain black flags were flown by the pirates of old.

But for you folks that don't like us, that wish to fly the Jolly Roger, I really don't think any of us really care.

[tropicalescape]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

No, not at all. But some may be mistaking the pirate mythology as being more universal. Its like the mythology of the Wild West. Thats American. We can't have an Australian Cowboy movie. It just doesn't work because its not our mythology - and we didn't ever have 6 Guns till the First World War!

Though the pirate literature probably started in England it was greatly enhanced by Hollywood. Who can't have wanted a swashbuckling life when watching Errol Flynn as a kid at the Saturday afternoon flicks?

There is nothing wrong with enjoying all our differences in culture because it teaches us more and that is what cruising is about. Cruising is NOT about unblocking the heads, its about unblocking the brain


Mark

Depends on who you ask,whether or not there were cowboys in Australia! And I dont belive the so called Jolly Roger has much if any historical fact. Its all Hollywood..Just like cowboys and indians...DVC

[NeptunesTrident]

Originally Posted by tropicalescape

Depends on who you ask,whether or not there were cowboys in Australia! And I dont belive the so called Jolly Roger has much if any historical fact. Its all Hollywood..Just like cowboys and indians...DVC

There is a lot of truth in that statement. I don't think there are any documented facts of more than 2 that flew the Jolly Roger in the 18th century, and not real sure there are any from the 17th century. And the only one I know for sure flew the Jolly Roger is Erol Flynn.

[Matt sachs]

Originally Posted by zeehag

and a good time was had by all....

i kinda like my avvie's outfit, meself.....

I agree. I think this discussion might be limited to male pirates....nobody minds a gal in pirate garb

[zeehag]

see how you men are!!!!

[Matt sachs]

Arrrrrrrrr.....

[Marksman]

Well, back in '82 I sailed an old wooden hulled gaff rig with wooden spars and 3 strand running rigging. I used the Jolly Rodger as my signal that I was my at my boat for my sailing buddies, or sometimes just cause I felt like it, and it fit the flavor of the old girl. But back then no one else was doing it and I could feel just a little unique. Now, everyone and their brother is flying one, some times they're sporting two of the damn things (go fast power boats, up on the bow, big as posible, blocking their view). And yes, most (not all) of them are the rude, loud, come on guys have some fun, who needs sleep kinda folks. So there is no longer any novelty in it and I'll be dead before it becomes novel again, so I will not be dissplaying the skull and cross bones anymore. I don't think ill of those who do unless they use it as a licence for rude, stupid behavior. I do understand that it can give a feeling of release and freedom, even if it is only symbolic because at the end of the day we all still live in the real world.

Peace

[Marksman]

Oh and Zee..... love your outfit!!!

[NeptunesTrident]

Hey! There is no smilie for lustful drooling!

[Don1500]

Originally Posted by zeehag

i am goooood in da galley----love my carving knife!!!!!

Never questioned your ability. Just didn't think you would relish being "COMMANDED" to that duty.

[Marksman]

I would never give comands to Zee, but I may beg a little....

[tropicalescape]

Originally Posted by Marksman

Well, back in '82 I sailed an old wooden hulled gaff rig with wooden spars and 3 strand running rigging. I used the Jolly Rodger as my signal that I was my at my boat for my sailing buddies, or sometimes just cause I felt like it, and it fit the flavor of the old girl. But back then no one else was doing it and I could feel just a little unique. Now, everyone and their brother is flying one, some times they're sporting two of the damn things (go fast power boats, up on the bow, big as posible, blocking their view). And yes, most (not all) of them are the rude, loud, come on guys have some fun, who needs sleep kinda folks. So there is no longer any novelty in it and I'll be dead before it becomes novel again, so I will not be dissplaying the skull and cross bones anymore. I don't think ill of those who do unless they use it as a licence for rude, stupid behavior. I do understand that it can give a feeling of release and freedom, even if it is only symbolic because at the end of the day we all still live in the real world.

Peace

whats wrong with 3 strand running rigging? Ive got a 200 ft roll if anybodys interested..its new old stock!DVC

[Bash]

Originally Posted by tropicalescape

And I dont belive the so called Jolly Roger has much if any historical fact. Its all Hollywood..Just like cowboys and indians...DVC

Not Hollywood! Broadway. The first popularization of the Jolly Roger was in Gilbert & Sullivan's The Pirates of Penzance.