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Old 01-09-2011, 11:18   #166
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Nothing was ever glamanous or romantic about being a pirate!!!

Thinking otherwise is like saying the same about some gang banger who shoots up some neighborhood!

Does not matter how pirates get protrayed in movies etc. in the end they are just murdering thiefs!

What are you saying by flying a pirate flag, that you wish you were murdering thief?
I second this.. Exactly what I would have said
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You just about nailed it in one MarkJ..... its usually the local US/UK/Anglosaxon expats fly those things.... 80% are power boaters... the rest are sail and one look says... 'Oh **** its a Charter boat'
Europeans tend to a bit more maturity...
I've not known a 'serious cruiser' to fly one...
Theres that smug Euro attitude! I wondered where that was hiding.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:37   #168
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Nothing was ever glamanous or romantic about being a pirate!!!

Thinking otherwise is like saying the same about some gang banger who shoots up some neighborhood!

Does not matter how pirates get protrayed in movies etc. in the end they are just murdering thiefs!

What are you saying by flying a pirate flag, that you wish you were murdering thief?
Nobody ever said there was. Except maybe, Spain, England, France and the other costal nations of Europe, who commissioned such people to raid and attack the vessels of other nations. And paid them for such things to boot.

Pirates booty comes from his cut of the spoils.
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Theres that smug Euro attitude! I wondered where that was hiding.
Care to explain?
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:46   #170
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Theres that smug Euro attitude! I wondered where that was hiding.
Nope.... thats smug ex-Colonial Brit....
Anglo Saxon ex-pats are the ones who run when the going gets tough...
Euro's are the French, Italians, Spanish etc...
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boatman doesnt hide--he says it out in the open.....
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Nobody ever said there was. Except maybe, Spain, England, France and the other costal nations of Europe, who commissioned such people to raid and attack the vessels of other nations. And paid them for such things to boot.

Pirates booty comes from his cut of the spoils.
Agreed. The biggest murdering thieves of this time period were the royal families of europe. The pirates were just people who got tired of working for somebody else and set off on their own. In a time of slavery and mass warfare, pirates were fairly tame. Some people have respect for the society of the brethren because it was spontaneous and often fairly democratic or even socialist by modern world standards. In America pirate crews often included freed slaves. The later pirates who lived like that really just wanted to live free and on the sea and did whatever they had to to make it happen. I would think most cruisers would understand or have some sympathy.
The earlier pirates, who were almost all privateers, such as Drake and Morgan, were the ones who really gave pirates a bad name. And they were considered heroes at home and worked directly for their governments. Morgan was made Governor of Jamaica. Those guys were very unpleasant. Look up "woolding" to understand what they did to their victims...
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What are you saying by flying a pirate flag, that you wish you were murdering thief?
What are you saying by wearing a crucifix, that you wish you were murdering zealot?

The same goes for any religion, political organization, group etc... You're piling a whole slew of things into one category of "pirates". It's exactly like saying all political parties are the same, or all religions are the same. There's completely different "pirate" ideals here and they're all being regarded as the same thing.
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What are you saying by wearing a crucifix, that you wish you were murdering zealot?

The same goes for any religion, political organization, group etc... You're piling a whole slew of things into one category of "pirates". It's exactly like saying all political parties are the same, or all religions are the same. There's completely different "pirate" ideals here and they're all being regarded as the same thing.
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A nice friendly pirate talk:
Pirates & Privateers - The Pirates' Arsenal of Torture
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Now there's some good stuff in there!
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Almost sounds like life in the Prussian Army of Frederick the Great.
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Care to explain?
Boatman61 and all the mature Europeans he speaks of.

And the rest of us are infintile, I guess.
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My boat came with one of those carved coconut pirate heads...I cant bring myself to throw it away...he is tacky and very ugly with his eye patch and bad teeth but I like him...reminds me of my uncle Ronnie and I can stash stuff inside him...they will never look there!!?? DVC
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Nope.... thats smug ex-Colonial Brit....
Anglo Saxon ex-pats are the ones who run when the going gets tough...
Euro's are the French, Italians, Spanish etc...
Please excuse me, I have trouble with me hearing....
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