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Old 29-06-2015, 21:01   #16
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Re: International Gun Laws

As you set out for Ithaka
hope the voyage is a long one,
full of adventure, full of discovery.
Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
angry Poseidon—don’t be afraid of them:
you’ll never find things like that on your way
as long as you keep your thoughts raised high,
as long as a rare excitement
stirs your spirit and your body.
Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
wild Poseidon—you won’t encounter them
unless you bring them along inside your soul,
unless your soul sets them up in front of you.

Hope the voyage is a long one.
May there be many a summer morning when,
with what pleasure, what joy,
you come into harbors seen for the first time;
may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
to buy fine things,
mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
sensual perfume of every kind—
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
and may you visit many Egyptian cities
to gather stores of knowledge from their scholars.

Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
Arriving there is what you are destined for.
But do not hurry the journey at all.
Better if it lasts for years,
so you are old by the time you reach the island,
wealthy with all you have gained on the way,
not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.

Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey.
Without her you would not have set out.
She has nothing left to give you now.

And if you find her poor, Ithaka won’t have fooled you.
Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,
you will have understood by then what these Ithakas mean.

-Cavafy
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Old 29-06-2015, 21:44   #17
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Hehe hehe a gun thread hehe hehe

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Old 29-06-2015, 21:45   #18
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Re: International Gun Laws

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It's a nightmare trying to deal with this.

Unfortunately in most countries you aren't legally allowed to defend yourself. Like Australia.

In fact you are liable for any injury an intruder suffers while on your property.
Of course you can defend yourself in Australia... just not allowed to do it with a gun is all.... Not allowed to use a samurai sword either but machetes are still ok.
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Old 29-06-2015, 21:52   #19
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Re: International Gun Laws

You can defend yourself in America, too. The courts say it's ok to give a cop the middle finger.
Court: Flipping the bird at a cop doesn't warrant arrest - U.S. News

And this guy got $15k for his trouble.
Man Arrested for Giving Cops the Finger Wins $15K Settlement from the City - Greenwich Village - DNAinfo.com New York
Just enough to buy a project boat. Now where's that old thread...
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Don't deter the US boats from bringing their guns along either: The pinnacle for entertainment value this year - way above even an anchoring thread - was watching a US Skipper, get fired-up and indignant because the Bahamian Authorities would only let him retain three of his guns aboard the vessel, the other eight he would have to turn-in to them. Eleven guns on a 48' yacht; WTF? Allowing for ammunition storage too, there couldn't have been much space left to stow the iPads and anchors!

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Old 29-06-2015, 22:07   #21
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Well really. America became powerful because they cowered while Canadians and Brits fought at Vimyy, Paschendale, the Somme, the battle of Britain. Gallipoli for the Australians.

Hows this for a gun thread.

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Old 29-06-2015, 22:15   #22
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Best advice ....

Leave your guns at home champ.

Bring your wits with you and you wont need them
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Re: International Gun Laws

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You can defend yourself in America, too. The courts say it's ok to give a cop the middle finger.
Court: Flipping the bird at a cop doesn't warrant arrest - U.S. News

And this guy got $15k for his trouble.
Man Arrested for Giving Cops the Finger Wins $15K Settlement from the City - Greenwich Village - DNAinfo.com New York
Just enough to buy a project boat. Now where's that old thread...
There was an American court case years ago that decided it was ok to curse at a cop - as long as you didn't raise your voice.
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Re: International Gun Laws

Come join us on the gun owners social group. A sub forum on this website where you'll be welcome. Unable to have firearms aboard in our present location, we have multiple military knives,tomahawks and spears aboard which are legal and available locally. Spear guns are also sold locally.
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Unfortunately in most countries you aren't legally allowed to defend yourself. Like Australia.
Rubbish. Firstly criminal law is a state not federal issue (in the main) so it varies a little, but the "Griffith Criminal Code" is in place in the civilised states/territories (i.e. everywhere except NSW and Victoria) See for example
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267 Defence of dwelling
It is lawful for a person who is in peaceable possession of a dwelling, and any person lawfully assisting him or her or acting by his or her authority, to use force to prevent or repel another person from unlawfully entering or remaining in the dwelling, if the person using the force believes on reasonable grounds
(a) the other person is attempting to enter or to remain in the dwelling with intent to commit an indictable offence in the dwelling; and
(b) it is necessary to use that force.
and see for example

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271 Self-defence against unprovoked assault
(1) When a person is unlawfully assaulted, and has not provoked the assault, it is lawful for the person to use such force to the assailant as is reasonably necessary to make effectual defence against the assault, if the force used is not intended, and is not such as is likely, to cause death or grievous bodily harm.

(2) If the nature of the assault is such as to cause reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm, and the person using force by way of defence believes, on reasonable grounds, that the person can not otherwise preserve the person defended from death or grievous bodily harm, it is lawful for the person to use any such force to the assailant as is necessary for defence, even though such force may cause death or grievous bodily harm
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In fact you are liable for any injury an intruder suffers while on your property.
Again - rubbish.

There are absolutely no laws to prohibit you defending yourself in Australia. None, nada , zero, zip, zilch, bugger all.

As to the Original Poster, you want to carry a firearm - don't come to Australia.
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As you set out for Ithaka
hope the voyage is a long one,
full of adventure, full of discovery.
Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
angry Poseidon—don’t be afraid of them:
you’ll never find things like that on your way
as long as you keep your thoughts raised high,
as long as a rare excitement
stirs your spirit and your body.
Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
wild Poseidon—you won’t encounter them
unless you bring them along inside your soul,
unless your soul sets them up in front of you.

Hope the voyage is a long one.
May there be many a summer morning when,
with what pleasure, what joy,
you come into harbors seen for the first time;
may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
to buy fine things,
mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
sensual perfume of every kind—
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
and may you visit many Egyptian cities
to gather stores of knowledge from their scholars.

Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
Arriving there is what you are destined for.
But do not hurry the journey at all.
Better if it lasts for years,
so you are old by the time you reach the island,
wealthy with all you have gained on the way,
not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.

Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey.
Without her you would not have set out.
She has nothing left to give you now.

And if you find her poor, Ithaka won’t have fooled you.
Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,
you will have understood by then what these Ithakas mean.

-Cavafy
On your journey across vast oceans as you get closer to Ithaca be prepared for all eventualities including civil unrest that could turn violent. Especially since the Greek Banks have closed their doors and the ATMs have run dry. If you must sail to Ithaca I would set sail with a canon on my bow and a side arm by my side. Or at least a sawn off shotgun. Just kidding.
I have no comment or advise to give on this subject.....
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i work for a global construction company and one of our jobs is in south africa and in the blurb i got sent before i went last year it said that open carry was a mandatory requirement !!!!!!

so there you go - take whatever firearms you like - hope that you're not white like me cos you'll get a really rough ride and that 9milli you've got will be an essential piece of survival kit.

table mountain is beautiful and the sharks were way cool and played very nicely - even if i was in a cage - i know am a wuss
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I am building a nuclear bomb - for personal defence only.
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