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Old 09-09-2014, 15:40   #241
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I confess it is a luxury and may not reflect universal priorities, but we have an espresso machine bolted in in the galley. (It came with the boat, if that counts for anything). Yes, it is power-hungry -- probably 1500W while it is heating (it runs on 220V form the inverter). But it heats the small boiler to temperature in only 2 or 3 minutes. If the crew requests steamed milk, that takes longer and more power. I feel the power and space it consumes is well worth it for the improved disposition of captain and crew alike.
A Nespresso machine uses 1500 watts for only seconds to produce a scrumptious cup of espresso (or a long coffee). Much less power than it takes to brew normal coffee. This is a truly hot, so to speak, tip, for cruising saiboats.

Not that normal coffee is either any problem on any boat with a decent battery bank. I boil a couple of liters of water for a big pot of coffee, or tea, in an electric kettle, and can't detect the change in battery state, in our reasonably modest 420 amp/hours (x 24v) bank. I haven't done the math, but it must be a couple of tens of amp hours, at most. Faster and easier than turning on the gas.
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There are only two things that should ever be added to straight black coffee: Rum or Whisky
I usually put sugar in my coffee, but on my days off I put Jack Daniels in it. It tastes even sweeter, plus I get a boost!
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Ha anyone mentioned label makers? Here's a prime exmple of poor labeling causing a mixup between his coffee jar and his peyote jar. There's been a minor medication mishap.

OTOH, this now explains the majority of his posts. Especially the early morning ones.

in my best Ed McMahon voice.....GOOD ONE!

you young whippersnappers might need to google that......
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.... If you really want smooth coffee without the bitterness, this is it.
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R U talkin bout tea?
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I have to agree with both BC and WifeyB. For many years I was obsessed with sailing. All I thought about was boats and sailing and living on board one. I succeeded in doing a lot of it and it was great and all I thought it would be.

I figured that when I got old I would go back to that lifestyle. But, even then, there were times when I missed things. I missed my cars and going for a drive. I missed riding a motorcycle. I even missed cleaning and polishing one. I missed playing tennis regularly.

I became a pensioner a couple of months ago and now we are not sure if it is the lifestyle for us at the moment. My lady and I still love exploring by four wheel drive. We still love riding motorcycles. I still enjoy sports, both playing and watching, although there is more watching than playing nowadays.

She is a shutterbug fanatic, as some of you will have observed on the DSLR thread, and spends hours looking for shots while I tag along with the dog.

We have a couple of small boats, one an open 15' dayboat and the idea of camp cruising in that very much appeals to us.

Above all that though, we laugh and be silly every day without fail. Maybe we would not do so if we were tied to the boat as our only escape. Just maybe the escape would turn into the opposite and tie us down a little. There are no answers that are final and clear cut, but at the moment, we are having fun doing what we do, so when we stop having fun, we will look at alternatives again.

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OH SHUT THE FRAQ UP!!!! I'm gonna be giving that up in the next several years.....Whataya trying to do???? get me to stay heer on dry land?????
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OH SHUT THE FRAQ UP!!!! I'm gonna be giving that up in the next several years.....Whataya trying to do???? get me to stay heer on dry land?????
Not at all. We all have to make our own decisions based on what we feel like at the time. You will know what is right for yourself I am sure and nothing I say is intended to be a role model for your life.

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So, coops....what kinda bike ya got? Me? a lil ol' sportster with a 4.5 gallon tank, a touring seat and a windshield.
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As it is way off topic I will answer by pm.

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Our 17oz Bodum electric tea kettle boils water in about 3 minutes and uses about 50 amps for those 3 minutes. So that's what...about 2.5 amp hours. Not bad for 17 oz of boiling water.

http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-11451-01...ettle+electric

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A Nespresso machine uses 1500 watts for only seconds to produce a scrumptious cup of espresso (or a long coffee). Much less power than it takes to brew normal coffee. This is a truly hot, so to speak, tip, for cruising saiboats.
Ye cannae change the laws o' physics Jim!

1500W for 10 seconds is 15,000 joules which is enough to raise 250ml of water by less than 15 degrees C. And that's assuming 100% efficiency.

No way can you make a hot cup of coffee from room temperature water with that amount of energy, regardless of what machine you are using.
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R U talkin bout tea?

Now that's a whole different beverage that I just haven't explored, yet. There are so many different flavors, it's kinda bewildering!
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Ye cannae change the laws o' physics Jim!

1500W for 10 seconds is 15,000 joules which is enough to raise 250ml of water by less than 15 degrees C. And that's assuming 100% efficiency.

No way can you make a hot cup of coffee from room temperature water with that amount of energy, regardless of what machine you are using.
Sorry, but a double shot of espresso is less than 60ml. The machine works not by changing laws of physics but by not heating a drop more than necessary. That's about 19,000 joules for delta t of 75, or less than 15 seconds. Assume efficiency of 50%, and it's less than 30 seconds. In reality, about 20 seconds.
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... That's about 19,000 joules for delta t of 75, or less than 15 seconds...
This is the reason we don't talk much about this very important thing. Let's stick with those wots and oomphs.
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