Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-10-2012, 12:03   #61
Senior Cruiser
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Now in Blaine, WA
Boat: Modified Choate 40
Posts: 10,702
Images: 122
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtM View Post
If this is your boat, here is my input. This boat is barely more than a hull. The problem with used hulls is that new hulls are not much more expensive, and are more modern, lighter-weight, and more attractive in styling.
I would have to disagree!
Price the materials to build a hull these days. What I paid for mine 10 years ago wouldn't have even paid for half the raw materials at that time. Now they have doubled. My keel alone is worth $2000 in scrap. The price new is $20K maybe more by now.
__________________

__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

Unprepared boaters, end up as floatsum!.......
delmarrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 12:21   #62
Senior Cruiser
 
rebel heart's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,190
Images: 3
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by pillum View Post
I agree with you Rebel, 36 is good for me too, I hope it'll serve my retirement out too. Just enough and nothing more. I sympathize with the OP, nothing worse than having a boat and not being able to sail her.
Another thing too is that if you stick with your boat long enough you know it. You know everything that can break, the things that might break, the things that really shouldn't break, etc. You know where the spares are, the tools are, that spare piece of timber you keep under the bunk, etc. How it handles, how it sails, its quirks, etc. If anything for me that adds a lot of safety and security.

No desire to switch boats at this point in my life. Would much rather just work on this one forever.
__________________

__________________
rebel heart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 12:30   #63
Senior Cruiser
 
hpeer's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Philadelphia
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 3,896
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebel heart View Post
Another thing too is that if you stick with your boat long enough you know it.
No desire to switch boats at this point in my life. Would much rather just work on this one forever.
That is my thought, although we have TWO boats, which is sorta like having two wives that know each other.

Both boats were in pretty good or better shape when we bought them and they still cost a bunch to get them how WE wanted them. Heat, solo capable, etc.

While we may eventually sell one boat, I can't see selling both and getting another.

Then again, I swore I would never get married again.
__________________
hpeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 14:14   #64
Senior Cruiser
 
rebel heart's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,190
Images: 3
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by hpeer View Post
That is my thought, although we have TWO boats, which is sorta like having two wives that know each other.

Both boats were in pretty good or better shape when we bought them and they still cost a bunch to get them how WE wanted them. Heat, solo capable, etc.

While we may eventually sell one boat, I can't see selling both and getting another.

Then again, I swore I would never get married again.
I try to qualify all my statements with "at this point in my life." I barely know what the hell I'm doing tomorrow let alone ten years from now. I hear you man.
__________________
rebel heart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 14:40   #65
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,013
Images: 5
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebel heart View Post
I barely know what the hell I'm doing tomorrow let alone ten years from now.
The present moment is a good place to be. It's where life happens.
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 16:11   #66
Registered User
 
zUrchin's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Illinois retiring to the Philippines
Boat: Com-pac 25
Posts: 89
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

fascinating how rare things like this conversation has turned to a philosophical one
__________________
zUrchin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 16:44   #67
Registered User
 
Greatketch33's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 148
There are times when I work on something on my boat and it becomes a project; to which I question "why did I buy this boat?"-- especially during the dark winter months whilst working on the boat in the cold temps.

But I am reminded during those special summer time moments, when the wind, the waves, and the sunset speak to me in a way that no other can; a way that sparks the mystical thoughts and feeling of life. And during those moments, no thought of time expended on the boat, no pain received, nor money spent ever intrudes such tranquility.

Is it worth it? You bet.

Fair winds,
__________________
Greatketch33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 17:02   #68
Registered User
 
mbianka's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,125
Images: 1
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by zUrchin View Post
I've learned the hard way like you have, when I was very much a sailing newbie. It was a very frustrating to the point I became bitter, losing a whole sailing season, especially when I could see all the other boaters enjoy their boat off their slips. I would never purchase a boat again that cannot be regularly sailed safely for a reasonable distance - almost immediately after a purchase.
We have all been there or will be there at some point. Stuck somewhere for a maintenance issue. For me it was when my diesel died at the end of the season in 2006. I thought surely it was a simple problem as it had been running perfectly and had only 1900 hours on it. But, I was wrong. I worked on it over the winter and into the spring. When July Fourth rolled around and my boat was still in the boatyard I had them launch it without the mast and put it out on the mooring.
THE BIANKA LOG BLOG: The Cruel Summer
I used it as my little island for the summer. I did not sail but, I did ENJOY my boat even if I never left the harbor. The beers, BBQ and boat drinks still tasted the same. So I feel I did not miss out too much.
__________________
Capt. Mike
mbianka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 07:59   #69
Registered User
 
NahanniV's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: On the Boat
Boat: Finnsailer 38
Posts: 1,142
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Your story is not adding up:

Kijiji : Poster's Ads.

From your AD's it looks like you still have the PY23 ?
__________________
NahanniV is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 08:01   #70
Registered User
 
Mark1977's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Halifax, N.S Canada
Boat: Tanzer 26, Walk22
Posts: 930
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by NahanniV View Post
Your story is not adding up:

Kijiji : Poster's Ads.

From your AD's it looks like you still have the PY23 ?
Nope , that's my old one. It belongs to my friend where i also keep my boat.
__________________
Just the guy that runs the boat.
Mark1977 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 08:26   #71
Registered User
 
Cormorant's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Catskill Mountains when not cruising
Boat: 31' homebuilt Michalak-designed Cormorant "Sea Fever"
Posts: 2,072
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark1977 View Post
Thats the boat. The hull is sound and smooth. It was well built, you would not be able to tell it is ferro. The interior needs more work and all the deck hard ware needs to be put back on, wiring , plumbing....... It also needs a traveler system.. Hull cleaned..etc..

I know you've been throwing your time and money and energy at this and it's getting frustrating, but aside from the engine, it all sounds doable.

Wiring and plumbing can start small and evolve as you have time. We cruised without a toilet for several years -- not fun, but doable. . . . And my initial wiring only had a few circuits -- a couple of cabin lights, nav lights, radio.

As for the engine, why not just pull it, leave yourself some nice new cabin space, and get a used outboard on a bracket that makes it manageable? Not ideal -- but better than nothing.

It seems like a good boat in general. Maybe worth sticking with it. . . .
__________________
Cormorant is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 08:40   #72
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Alaska
Boat: Truant Triad 37 Cutter
Posts: 346
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Hi Mark. I know what its like to get mired in a project that seems unending and mentally puttingnout a large anchor. Maybe if you post some pictures as she is now and any you have before. And during we could offer comments to help you get thriugh it. Best of luck to you, Scott
__________________
seahag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 08:56   #73
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: virginia
Boat: islandpacket
Posts: 1,833
I sold my project boat on ebay. I lost so much money and time on it. Best thing I ever did.
__________________
That derelict boat was another dream for somebody else, don't let it be your nightmare and a waste of your life.
Badsanta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 09:57   #74
Registered User
 
Mark1977's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Halifax, N.S Canada
Boat: Tanzer 26, Walk22
Posts: 930
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cormorant View Post
I know you've been throwing your time and money and energy at this and it's getting frustrating, but aside from the engine, it all sounds doable.

Wiring and plumbing can start small and evolve as you have time. We cruised without a toilet for several years -- not fun, but doable. . . . And my initial wiring only had a few circuits -- a couple of cabin lights, nav lights, radio.

As for the engine, why not just pull it, leave yourself some nice new cabin space, and get a used outboard on a bracket that makes it manageable? Not ideal -- but better than nothing.

It seems like a good boat in general. Maybe worth sticking with it. . . .
Thanks to all for the words of encouregment. It looks like it will be around for another winter. I have lots of lobster to catch over the winter and build up boat fund. Who knows maybe in the spring I will change my mind.
__________________
Just the guy that runs the boat.
Mark1977 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-10-2012, 10:35   #75
Senior Cruiser
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 19,342
Re: I Wish I Never Bought This Boat

What is the deal with the rebuilt engine anyway? What went wrong...? That boat looks pretty good for a cement boat.
How would you mount an outboard bracket onto a cement boat anyway...? Cement drills and huge backing plate? It's a viable option for now.... can always use the bracket to store the dingy motor later. It's a big heavy boat, but 15 HP will probably push it well enough...
__________________

__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.