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Old 27-05-2019, 21:46   #1
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I don't often use marinas but needing re-supply and feeling lazy I went into the marina in Gladstone Queensland and noticed this sign when walking up the ramp from the pontoons.

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Old 27-05-2019, 22:22   #2
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wow! are their slip prices that high?
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Old 27-05-2019, 22:33   #3
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I don't often use marinas but needing re-supply and feeling lazy I went into the marina in Gladstone Queensland and noticed this sign when walking up the ramp from the pontoons.

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Have heard some great things about Gladstone marina, this adds to the list. FWIW Qantas aircraft have one onboard as well.
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Old 28-05-2019, 02:42   #4
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wow! are their slip prices that high?


They are high. They had a construction boom here which inflated the rates which only ended a couple of years ago. The rates have not changed for a couple of years and the marina is now half empty however inflation is very low in Australia and consequently inflation has not re-established more reasonable yet.
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Good on them!

Any location that has 1000 adults over the age of 35 present per day during the normal business hours (7.5 hours/day,5 days per week, 250 days per year) can expect one incident of sudden cardiac arrest every 5 years. In a cardiac arrest, two of the key links to surviving such an event is early CPR and defibrillation. For every minute a person is in cardiac arrest, their chances of surviving decreases by about 10%.

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Why does it say trained personnel only?
Y9u have to be trained to have a heat attack?
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Why does it say trained personnel only?
Y9u have to be trained to have a heat attack?
Expect it's a liability issue.

FWIW: Legislation, in provinces across Canada, protects individuals who use AEDs from liability when they are used in the context of saving a life.
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Why does it say trained personnel only?
Y9u have to be trained to have a heat attack?
I thought the latest versions run a check on the patient before enabling the zap to reduce the chance mis-diagnosed problem by a lay person.
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I was joking mostly, the sign seems to indicate that you arenít allowed use of the machine if your untrained.

I think they are fully automated, only need to put the leads in the right place, and Iím sure there is a picture showing where
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Pete7 & a64pilot are both right.
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There's one hanging on the wall outside our marina office. I guess that I "assumed" (yes, I know) that most marinas had them these days.

Also they have demonstrations and hands on training a couple of times a year in the conference room. I went when we first got here.

I think because our marina is run by the Port the standards (and awareness of liability) may be stricter.

Anyway, I'm just glad it's there.
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I tried to get one in the plant where I worked, but the owner wouldnít pay for it. Iím vaguely familiar with them, I believe them to be pretty much foolproof. Can you imagine the lawsuits if they werenít?
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I tried to get one in the plant where I worked, but the owner wouldn’t pay for it. I’m vaguely familiar with them, I believe them to be pretty much foolproof. Can you imagine the lawsuits if they weren’t?
The AED's I have trained on over the years are pretty much idiot proof. The machines are very automated and walk the user through what needs to be done. It will only shock if needed. The only real danger is if a rescuer was touching the casualty when a shock was given and the AED warns people before the shock is given.

At least in my state, AEDs are legally allowed to be used by anyone and liability is not an issue due to state law. If liability is an issue, then the state needs to make the issue go away. The AEDs I have trained on are designed to be used by anyone. Special training is not needed.

Liability for a business could be different. If a company had an AED but did not maintain the equipment, especially the battery, they could be liable.

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Our marina has had one long enough that we had to swap out the batteries, which I think is like every 5-7 years.

I tell everyone who will listen, if it's ME lying on the floor, don't run around looking for someone who has been trained to operate the AED. Just follow the directions.

That "trained personnel only" BS is only to satisfy the lawyers. I've been through the training at least three times, by the way.
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Liability for a business could be different. If a company had an AED but did not maintain the equipment, especially the battery, they could be liable.

Later,
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You know knowing this guy, I bet his mind went immediately to the liability concern, if he doesnít have one heís not liable, but having one maybe could make him liable somehow, which to him would be more important that an employee surviving or not.
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