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Old 21-12-2017, 13:59   #31
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Re: dreaming of buying boat for big family

Personally I think you'll have trouble squeezing that family onto a 46 inch sailboat.
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Old 21-12-2017, 14:09   #32
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Thank you!

We think that 45Ē sails boat itís ok for summer vacation for our big family, but little small for trying living aboard long time!

Whatís about 49Ē Jeanneau 2006-2008?
Itís close to our budget.
The center cockpit is what will work if anything. They tend to utilize a lot of interior space very well. A private aft cabin for Mom dad and baby, forward V for older teen and settees and lee cloths for other kids. You will have to be close but as I mentioned adding ten more feet may seem way bigger but once off the dock every boat gets real small real quick. Get onboard a center to see for yourself, as with all some layouts are better than others but something 45-50í will be massive in comparison to your 32. I have met a family of 6 summer cruising a 27í boat so it will all come down to your family. People will argue but personally if youíre planing offshore passages in the future, look for a modified full keel and a skeg hung rudder as a minimum.
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Old 21-12-2017, 14:09   #33
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Personally I think you'll have trouble squeezing that family onto a 46 inch sailboat.
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Look up the Gifford family, been cruising since 2008 with 3 kids on a 47í mono.
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Old 21-12-2017, 14:48   #35
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If living at a marina and spending most of your time ashore maybe
If actual cruising, needing to carry gear, spares, a REAL dinghy and several weeks of supplies, I reckon not.

There are 2 of us and a cat living on the 60fter in the avatar.
Have not been in a marina in 2 years and we do it comfortably and I wouldn't want to be doing it on anything less.
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Your trawler at avatar looks good. How old is it? And may I ask you how much hours in engine have you got per year? How much do you spend for maintenance ,repair and fuel? If you use generator what is fuel consumption for running it during staying on anchor? I wonder if itís possible to use solar panels for trawlers?
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Old 21-12-2017, 15:54   #36
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Your kids are young I believe so no issue sharing a cabin (larger monos often have a cabin with 2 singles in a bunk configuration). But ensure nobody needs to sleep in shared areas when not on passage (that is, donít rely on settee berths for permanent sleeping).

However, if your kids will be reaching puberty, then theyíll want private space. Consider how your family will grow into the space.

As a teenager living aboard with my parents on a small volume 32 footer (many years ago), the dinghy saved me. Either I was underneath it on the foredeck where we stored it upside down on passage, or I was taking it to explore and drift wherever we were, or we scrapped at each other in the tight space. Private cabins would have really helped.

The biggest challenge with getting a larger mono or even mid sized catamaran is to avoid models with a lot of heads. Two is plenty, as especially in the tropics youíll only used them for the toilet - showers will usually take place on deck. More than two heads are a waste of space.

As someone else has noted, every boat gets much smaller as soon as you leave the dock. And much larger when you have to dock in a tight spot or have to clean and paint the bottom. But any boat up to 60 feet can be single handed given a reasonable design and fit out. So donít let size necessarily put you off.
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Look up the Gifford family, been cruising since 2008 with 3 kids on a 47í mono.
People live in tiny caravans and some sail oceans in washing machines.
Doesnt make it comfortable or fun
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Your trawler at avatar looks good. How old is it? And may I ask you how much hours in engine have you got per year? How much do you spend for maintenance ,repair and fuel? If you use generator what is fuel consumption for running it during staying on anchor? I wonder if itís possible to use solar panels for trawlers?
How old is it?
1970 build as working trawler - rebuilt as cruiser in 2005
how much hours in engine have you got per year?
we do around 400 hours/year @ 8knots @ approx 15 lph
Engine had fairly low hours and its type are apparently good for 30,000+ hours before rebuild so should outlast us and the boat.
How much do you spend for maintenance ,repair
Maintenance will vary depending on what needs doing and we are both handy, can use epoxy and count to 3 - we have budgeted $25k/year but so far we are half of that. We plan on getting her out of the country where wages and diesel are considerably cheaper than Australia.
If you use generator what is fuel consumption for running it during staying on anchor?
about 2 litres/hour for 2 hours a day, but rarely use it
I wonder if itís possible to use solar panels for trawlers?
Yes, we have 9x 250w on the roof.
On a sunny day that runs 2 houshold fridges, 1 household freezer a 180 litre household hot water system plus other stuff and keeps battery's fully charged by days end.

We bought this vessel inside your budget.
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How old is it?
1970 build as working trawler - rebuilt as cruiser in 2005
how much hours in engine have you got per year?
we do around 400 hours/year @ 8knots @ approx 15 lph
Engine had fairly low hours and its type are apparently good for 30,000+ hours before rebuild so should outlast us and the boat.
How much do you spend for maintenance ,repair
Maintenance will vary depending on what needs doing and we are both handy, can use epoxy and count to 3 - we have budgeted $25k/year but so far we are half of that. We plan on getting her out of the country where wages and diesel are considerably cheaper than Australia.
If you use generator what is fuel consumption for running it during staying on anchor?
about 2 litres/hour for 2 hours a day, but rarely use it
I wonder if itís possible to use solar panels for trawlers?
Yes, we have 9x 250w on the roof.
On a sunny day that runs 2 houshold fridges, 1 household freezer a 180 litre household hot water system plus other stuff and keeps battery's fully charged by days end.

We bought this vessel inside your budget.
Thank you so much for very useful information!
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Re: dreaming of buying boat for big family

Thank you very much for all advices!

All in all we made up our mind, sold the house and got the boat over budget. Now weíre happy owners of Catamaran 2011 Lagoon 40Ē. And weíre sailing the Caribbean at the moment during 4 months!
We made a funny video boat tour with our kids for those who is looking for a family boat if youíre interested we would be glad if you watch

https://youtu.be/eGzDuZL3XA4

and make some comments!
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That is so awesome, thanks for checking back in with the result to your original post!! Unless youíre inhumanly practical, I expect itís normal to overspend your budget when you find a boat that speaks to you. Will you be living aboard between cruising until youíre ready to take off permanently?
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That is so awesome, thanks for checking back in with the result to your original post!! Unless youíre inhumanly practical, I expect itís normal to overspend your budget when you find a boat that speaks to you. Will you be living aboard between cruising until youíre ready to take off permanently?
Thank you so much!
Actually since starting a sailing lifestyle itís difficult to make plans
We were lucky to get the boat ready for cruising. It has everything necessary for long trips and living aboard during long time, like solar panels, watermaker, wind generator, diesel generator and so on. In the begging our plan was to return to Florida but we changed our mind in the middle of the way and decided to start homeschooling , to slow down and go on sailing. We also spent some money to upgrade for new electronics and made bottom paint (it was costly) So itís reasonable to use the boat for another 2-3 years.
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