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Old 17-01-2017, 12:34   #1
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Contest 37 sunk with tragic results

The sea was apparently good for the crossing, they were sailing from Algarve (Portugal) to Madeira, a German yacht with a crew of two sexagenarians. Odd that they had not an Epirb since they had time to launch a liferaft.

One body was found inside a liferaft on Porto Santo. They presume that the other man had tried to jump the liferaft before it was thrown to the rocks.

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Re: Contest 37 sunk with tragic results

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The sea was apparently good for the crossing, they were sailing from Algarve (Portugal) to Madeira, a German yacht with a crew of two sexagenarians. Odd that they had not an Epirb since they had time to launch a liferaft.

One body was found inside a liferaft on Porto Santo. They presume that the other man had tried to jump the liferaft before it was thrown to the rocks.

Expresso | Buscas em terra para encontrar tripulante de iate desaparecido no Porto Santo
Keep us posted, Polux. It would be interesting know what happened.
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Sad news indeed..!!
If memory serves a few days back there were some strong S'lys across that part of the Atlantic which would have kicked up some nasty sea's.. NW dominant swell, S bound current and opposing winds would have made for an uncomfortable trip.
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Old 18-01-2017, 06:28   #4
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Re: Contest 37 sunk with tragic results

Unfortunately there is no news, they did not manage to find the 2nd of the two that crewed the Contessa 37 Tortuga and no sign of the boat.

They will keep a watch on the case the body appears on the Island's shores. With the two dead the reason why the boat sunk will remain a mystery since the weather report was favorable. Probably something to do with a water ingress since a capsize on these conditions seem unlikely.

What I find strange is that no Epirb alarm was received. Do these days any go to the sea offshore without an Epirb? An Epirb, in many countries, is mandatory as equipment on a yacht to sail offshore. It is on Germany? I don't know.

Yacht de posted an article about this tragic accident:
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Sad news indeed..!!
If memory serves a few days back there were some strong S'lys across that part of the Atlantic which would have kicked up some nasty sea's.. NW dominant swell, S bound current and opposing winds would have made for an uncomfortable trip.
Regarding that what a meteorologist says on Yacht.de is this (translated):

The Meteo data from the Kielese maritime weather specialist Dr. Meeno Schrader regarding the time of the passage refers "best sailing conditions" for the period in question.

"At the start in Portugal, it blew with 25 knots from the east, which means ideal downwind fast sailing. The temperatures were pleasant, 17 to 18 degrees Celsius. Soon the wind fell on the course to Madeira and turned slightly to the right. The air pressure remained high. It was not until the end of the journey that it refreshed, but by no means threatening. "There was nowhere on their course bad weather on the days in question," says Schrader. Also the sea would not have been a problem with two to three meters in a long swell wave."

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Re: Contest 37 sunk with tragic results

Terrible news - I know it's not likely, but it sure would be nice if at least the other man made it.
Also, that epirb question is on spot, I'm also curious what exactly happened
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Regarding that what a meteorologist says on Yacht.de is this (translated):

The Meteo data from the Kielese maritime weather specialist Dr. Meeno Schrader regarding the time of the passage refers "best sailing conditions" for the period in question.

"At the start in Portugal, it blew with 25 knots from the east, which means ideal downwind fast sailing. The temperatures were pleasant, 17 to 18 degrees Celsius. Soon the wind fell on the course to Madeira and turned slightly to the right. The air pressure remained high. It was not until the end of the journey that it refreshed, but by no means threatening. "There was nowhere on their course bad weather on the days in question," says Schrader. Also the sea would not have been a problem with two to three meters in a long swell wave."

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I'm just working on vague memories from passageweather as I've been eyeballing the situation for weather patterns since Christmas as my trip was to start 1st week in Feb.. now brought forward to this weekend.. no way for me to check back.. nor knowledge off when they set out.
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What I find strange is that no Epirb alarm was received. Do these days any go to the sea offshore without an Epirb?
Yes, and without a liferaft too..
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Yes, and without a liferaft too..
please re read the item--one body found INSIDE A LIFERAFT.... might wish to improve reading skills a tad. thankyou.
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Sousa Pereira said he had been informed that the two crew members had both been inside the life raft on the coast and found a 67-year-old man of German nationality.

"It is inferred that the second crew member will have tried to leave the lifeboat, possibly near shore already to avoid being inside the raft when she surfaced against the rocks, and may have opted to leave and with this type of Information the probability of the second crew member being at the coast line is extremely high, "he explained.

On Saturday a corpse was found on a life raft in Focinho do Forte bay, on the north coast of the island of Porto Santo, by a man of German nationality, a crew member of the yacht.
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please re read the item--one body found INSIDE A LIFERAFT.... might wish to improve reading skills a tad. thankyou.
That put another question: Porto Santo is a small island with lots of fisherman and 5000 inhabitants. It is difficult to understand why nobody saw parachute flares.... if they had sent them. Double tragedy, to be able to survive on a liferaft only to be killed against the shore!!!! Terrible.
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please re read the item--one body found INSIDE A LIFERAFT.... might wish to improve reading skills a tad. thankyou.
TeddyDiver was responding to the question "Do these days any go to the sea offshore without an Epirb?"
I read his comment as saying yes, people go offshore without Epirbs, and without liferafts too. Not a statement specifically about the boat in this instance.
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I heard something more: They found a log book, or at least a written document that says that the yacht had sunk. Maybe on that paper/log there is more about what caused the accident but that didn't said.

The naval authorities also talked about the position where the boat stop to give signal on the satellite tracking device. I don't know of what he is talking about, probably AIS but it is odd that they had AIS and not an EPIRB.

If it was the case the priorities in what regards safety equipment were all wrong.
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Re: Contest 37 sunk with tragic results

They may have had an EPIRB. When I took my ACR in to replace the batteries, the antenna fell off in my hand. The repair center said that was common for the ACR, and replaced it for free.

Most of the satellite tracking devices have a panic button.
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TeddyDiver was responding to the question "Do these days any go to the sea offshore without an Epirb?"
I read his comment as saying yes, people go offshore without Epirbs, and without liferafts too. Not a statement specifically about the boat in this instance.
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