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Old 17-12-2013, 16:12   #1
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Close call in South China Sea

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US and Chinese battleships narrowly avoid collision in South China Sea - Maritime news - Vessel Finder

Does anyone know which was the the stand-on vessel ?

Reporting the close call without describing who was the aggressor seems pretty silly.



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US and Chinese battleships narrowly avoid collision in South China Sea - Maritime news - Vessel Finder

Does anyone know which was the the stand-on vessel ?

Reporting the close call without describing who was the aggressor seems pretty silly.

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Old 17-12-2013, 16:26   #3
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A venue that describes both an aircraft carrier and a cruiser as 'battleships' probably can't be depended on for much more than the very basic facts. Issues of admiralty law and international territorial disputes are likely beyond their ability to keep straight.
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Old 17-12-2013, 17:41   #4
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Re: Close call in South China Sea

In 1988 the USS Caron was rammed by a Russian Warship in the Black Sea so it isn't that uncommon.
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Details of incident indicated that the US ship got too close to the security ring of the new Chinese Carrier, ignored the warnings and close quarter games began with the ships tasked to protect the carrier. If positions were reversed, US navy would have done the same. So I fault the US
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Details of incident indicated that the US ship got too close to the security ring of the new Chinese Carrier, ignored the warnings and close quarter games began with the ships tasked to protect the carrier. If positions were reversed, US navy would have done the same. So I fault the US
Yes, but it's still Obama's fault, I'm sure
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If they'd invested in an AIS...
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Old 17-12-2013, 19:26   #8
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Re: Close call in South China Sea

Ya got it right boatie!! I mean these little boats are so small that no one could ever see them without AIS !! I mean my 7-50s would never be strong enough to see em !!! And we all know thats it's Obamas fault our ships don't have AIS Right ??
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Re: Close call in South China Sea

They just have their thumbs on the silent button. That's all.
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Re: Close call in South China Sea

I just don't understand the US playing chicken with a Chinese Carrier group. Could you just imagine what would happen to you or I if we tried to get close to an American Carrier? The Chinese have declared a ADIZ which may or may not be realistic. Did the Americans ask permission when they declared the NA ADIZ? I think not.

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Surprise, surprise folks, the United States also has escort ships, a.k.a. cruisers and destroyers. Maintaining the surface perimeter around the aircraft carrier is their primary job, followed closely by air warfare defense. If the Chinese – or an unidentified sailboat or fishing vessel- ever tried to approach a U.S. aircraft carrier, uninvited, the U.S. warship captains tasked with maintaining the perimeter around the aircraft carrier would most definitely prevent such a maneuver.
The American Navy is playing a dangerous game, IMHO.
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it's a game all right. The Chinese testing us, and the US testing the Chinese. News outlets have all kinds of analysis - namely the Chinese thinking we are a power in decline.

It could get messy. I'm certain the US Navy can take care of business if necessary.

Question is, should cruisers give this whole region a wide berth until things are sorted.
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it's a game all right. The Chinese testing us, and the US testing the Chinese. News outlets have all kinds of analysis - namely the Chinese thinking we are a power in decline.

It could get messy. I'm certain the US Navy can take care of business if necessary.

Question is, should cruisers give this whole region a wide berth until things are sorted.
Well its not really a game of testing , more posturing , the US craft sailed into the Chinese self declared control zone. The chineese fleet then changed course to cross the bow of the US ship , forcing it to execute a complete stop. Cue subsequent protest from US to China , seemingly both bridges maintained professional communication throughout.

Just geo- political fun and games , no way the US is going to really upset the Chinese , they need them to much !

Ultimately the US will sit on Japan and tell them to back off

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