Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 04-04-2013, 15:28   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Greece
Boat: Jeanneau 43DS
Posts: 163
Changing a Boats Name

We all know it's bad luck to change a boats name but I believe there are a few rituals you can follow to appease the Gods that would otherwise dish out this ill fortune. A Swiss couple told me they sailed three 360 degree circles first to port then to starboard and it worked for them but I cannot help thinking surely there must be some alcohol or sacrifice involved for it to be truly effective!
__________________

__________________
Alenka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 15:43   #2
Registered User
 
BlackOak's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West, Fl. Memphis, Tn.
Boat: Seafarer 34 Sloop
Posts: 353
Images: 12
Re: Changing a Boats Name

__________________

__________________
BlackOak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 15:48   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: trinidad
Boat: Lavranos 40
Posts: 77
Re: Changing a Boats Name

Rename your boat "Rabbit" and go sailing in a Friday...I'm convinced nothing will happen to you if you don't believe in this bad luck stories ...
__________________
romanos2b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 16:45   #4
Don't ask if you can't handle it
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: On the boat somewhere
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 12,305
Re: Changing a Boats Name

life is too short to have an ugly boat, or one that someone else named and you don't like!
__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 17:48   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Australia
Boat: Ocean 71
Posts: 23
Re: Changing a Boats Name

Hi Alenka... we went with the following... Seems to satisfy all requirements
THE DENAMING CEREMONY
Sailors are a superstitious lot Ė and for good reason! Out at sea, you need all the help you can get and no one is going to consciously do anything to annoy or displease the ancient gods of the wind and the sea. Actually, itís not so much being superstitious as being careful. Itís part of good seamanship.

Changing the name of a boat has long been considered to bring bad luck of the most ominous kind and something to be avoided at all cost. For various reasons, there are times when a name change is unavoidable, but it must be carried out in the proper manner and with due regard to the sensibilities of the deities.

Before the ceremony, remove all physical traces of the boatís old name. Take the old log book ashore, along with any other papers that bear the old name. Donít neglect to wipe the name out in the obvious places--bows, stern, dinghy, oars, charts, horseshoe buoys, and so on. If the old name is carved into a timber somewhere, it is not enough just to paint over it. Fill, sand, and repaint. There may be official papers with the old name on them, and those should be temporarily removed from the boat for the ceremony. The slate must be wiped clean in preparation for the renaming.

Finally, donít place the new name anywhere on the boat before the denaming ceremony is carried out. That would be tempting fate.

The ceremony should consist of five parts: an invocation, an expression of gratitude, a supplication, a rededication and a libation.

Conduct this ceremony on the foredeck before a gathering of distinguished guests, or if you find these things embarrassing, you can mumble it down below on your own. The main thing is that you must say the word out loud.

The libation must be carried out at the bows, just as it is in a christening ceremony. Donít use any but the finest champagne compatible with your budget -- and pour it all on the boat Ė donít keep any for yourself. One of the things the gods of the sea despise most is meanness, so donít try to do this bit on the cheap.

The Denaming Ceremony
--by John Vigor
"In the name of all who have sailed aboard this ship in the past, and in the name of all who may sail aboard her in the future, we invoke the ancient gods of the wind and the sea to favour us with their blessing today. Ancient Neptune, king of all that moves in or on the waves; and mighty Aeolus, guardian of the winds and all that blows before them: we offer you our thanks for the protection you have afforded this vessel in the past. We voice our gratitude that she has always found shelter from tempest and storm and enjoyed safe passage to port.
"Now, wherefore, we submit this supplication, that the name whereby this vessel has hitherto been known, insert old boat name, be struck and removed from your records.

"Furthermore, we ask that when she is again presented for blessing with another name, she shall be recognized by you and shall be accorded once again the self-same privileges that she previously enjoyed.

"In return for which, we rededicate this vessel to your domain in full knowledge that she shall be subject, as always, to the immutable laws of the gods of the wind and the sea.

"In consequence whereof, and in good faith, we seal this pact with a libation offered according to the hallowed ritual of the sea."




Now you can pop the cork, shake the bottle and spray the whole of the contents on the bow.
__________________
smuggler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 18:42   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,016
Images: 4
I only go along with superstition and ritual for the libations.

Renamed three boats so far. Remove the old name, put not the new one, be liberal with the alcohol. That and some paperwork.

There are no Gods or demons to placate. But you knew that. Nothing but good times so far ...
__________________
daddle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 18:52   #7
Registered User
 
Kache Walk's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Deale, MD
Boat: Hinterhoeller Nonesuch 30U
Posts: 69
I followed the Vigor de-naming and renaming. Made for a good party with our new neighbors at the marina. Been safe so far.
__________________
In the end no one will sell you what you need...
you can't buy it off the shelf, you got to grow it from the seed. No Love Today, Chris Smither
Kache Walk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 18:55   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montegut LA.
Boat: Now we need to get her to Louisiana !! she's ours
Posts: 3,421
Re: Changing a Boats Name

If it's a wooden boat then burn some incense, pour a little rum and rename! If it's glass or metal, just re-name and go sailing !! Just my 2 cents (if it's wood ya need all the help ya can get !!)
__________________
Bob and Connie
bobconnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 19:03   #9
Registered User
 
Cotemar's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Boat: FP, Helia 44 Evo
Posts: 5,717
Re: Changing a Boats Name

Boat Denaming & Renaming

First you must remove all physical traces of the boat's old name. Take the old log book ashore, along with any other papers that bear the old name. Check for offending books and charts with the name inscribed. Be ruthless. Sand away the old name from the lifebuoys, transom, top-side, dinghy, and oars. Yes, sand it away. And don't place the new name anywhere on the boat before the denaming ceremony is carried out.

The last part of the ceremony, the libation, must be performed at the bow, just as it is in a naming ceremony. Pour the whole bottle of champagne on the bow of the boat. Buy a second bottle if you want some.

What sort of time period should elapse between this denaming ceremony and a new naming ceremony? There's no fixed time. You can do the renaming right after the denaming, if you want, but I personally would prefer to wait at least 24 hours to give any lingering demons a chance to clear out.

Vigor's Denaming Ceremony

"In the name of all who have sailed aboard this ship in the past, and in the name of all who may sail aboard her in the future, we invoke the ancient gods of the wind and the sea to favor us with their blessing today.

"Mighty Neptune, king of all that moves in or on the waves; and mighty Aeolus (pronounced EE-oh-lus), guardian of the winds and all that blows before them:

"We offer you our thanks for the protection you have afforded this vessel in the past. We voice our gratitude that she has always found shelter from tempest and storm and enjoyed safe passage to port.

"Now, wherefore, we submit this supplication, that the name whereby this vessel has hitherto been known (_____), be struck and removed from your records.

"Further, we ask that when she is again presented for blessing with another name, she shall be recognized and shall be accorded once again the selfsame privileges she previously enjoyed.

"In return for which, we rededicate this vessel to your domain in full knowledge that she shall be subject as always to the immutable laws of the gods of the wind and the sea.

"In consequence whereof, and in good faith, we seal this pact with a libation offered according to the hallowed ritual of the sea." Now you can pop the cork, shake the bottle of champagne and spray the whole of the contents on the bow.

Christening Ceremony

After a boat is denamed, you simply need to rename it using the traditional christening ceremony, preferably with Queen Elizabeth breaking a bottle of champagne on the bow, and saying the words:

"I name this ship ___________ and may she bring fair winds and good fortune to all who sail on her."
__________________
Cotemar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 19:11   #10
Moderator
 
Seaworthy Lass's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2008
Boat: Aluminium cutter rigged sloop
Posts: 12,807
Re: Changing a Boats Name

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar View Post
"Mighty Neptune, king of all that moves in or on the waves; and mighty Aeolus (pronounced EE-oh-lus), guardian of the winds and all that blows before them:
This won't cover all bases LOL. Poseidon is likely to be very miffed he wasn't included!
__________________
"The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea." Isak Dinesen
"To me the simple act of tying a knot is an adventure in unlimited space." Clifford Ashley
Seaworthy Lass is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 19:16   #11
Registered User
 
Blue Crab's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: Cal 29
Posts: 3,882
pirate Re: Changing a Boats Name

Quote:
Originally Posted by daddle View Post
I only go along with superstition and ritual for the libations. ...
There are no [g]ods or demons to placate...
If you meet the Buddha in a boat yard, kill him.
__________________
Blue Crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2013, 19:17   #12
Registered User
 
Cotemar's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Boat: FP, Helia 44 Evo
Posts: 5,717
Re: Changing a Boats Name

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass View Post
This won't cover all bases LOL. Poseidon is likely to be very miffed he was not included!
It's as close as I could get.
__________________

__________________
Cotemar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:14.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.