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Old 18-12-2013, 09:53   #16
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Very interesting and exciting couple for sure, really enjoyed their non-parochial style of going around the world as well as other adventures. Not sure I was fully “on-board” with living in Mexico raising a family, it appeared they were living more of a vagabond life, then adventuresome. Also I did have some concern that their children growing up in a 3rd world nation wouldn’t have the same spirit of adventure (product of the environment) as the parents given their stately upbringing, then again I could be all wrong. Truly wish them all the best, health and happiness.
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Also I did have some concern that their children growing up in a 3rd world nation
Cruising with kids is a TOTALLY different experience than two adults out cruising without kids. We did the "with kids" thing and next time (3.75yrs away) we will do it without kids. I can agree with Rebel's comment...we love our kids...but will love it when they can come and visit!!!

As for Mexico being the 3rd world...won't touch it but have you been to Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles?
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Old 18-12-2013, 10:18   #18
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Cruising with kids is a TOTALLY different experience than two adults out cruising without kids. We did the "with kids" thing and next time (3.75yrs away) we will do it without kids.

As for Mexico being the 3rd world...won't touch it but have you been to Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles?
Actually yes I have, and I would not have raised my kids there either. I'm not looking for a debate, open forum, open comments that's all, that's my personal opinion.
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There is this myth/lie out there that cruisers are sailors or even want to be!
For the vast majority of cruisers I meet it has nothing to do with the boat but rather with the destination.
That's the truth! I didn't get into sailing to be a sailor, I got into sailing to travel (cruise). My hope was that we didn't hate sailing/boating, but it looks to be working out as we like sailing overall.
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A few months back, I spent a week reading every entry from their first sail around the world. I am surprised at their new disdain for the S. Pacific, as they seemed to really like it in their initial blogging.
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Like probably many of our members. I've been following the sailing stories of Pat and Ali.

It's sad to see that it looks like the boat is for sale, and a motorhome is their mode of adventure from here in. I was looking forward to seeing their stories on the second RTW, but looks like that won't happen now.

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I have followed them on and off over the years. I like their approach to life...When it's a hassle, change it.

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Oh, never mind they shall always find someone...
I think Rebel Heart should be next in line.

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I'm going to give Pat so much **** the next time I see him. I mean what's a guy from the mid west doing on a boat anyway?
I hear the real reason he's going to leave Mexico had something to do with a knife and a local. Is that true?

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They have a life beyond sailing. Good for them.
It's the same for a lot of people. I have a few other expensive hobbies in my life that require attention. It's nice to have options.
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A few months back, I spent a week reading every entry from their first sail around the world. I am surprised at their new disdain for the S. Pacific, as they seemed to really like it in their initial blogging.
I have a couple of friends who recently crossed there path to complete their circumnavigation. After 5 years, they told me that Mexico is their favorite place. South Pacific...so, so.
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A few months back, I spent a week reading every entry from their first sail around the world. I am surprised at their new disdain for the S. Pacific, as they seemed to really like it in their initial blogging.
I haven't read very much, mostly because they seem to be very the grass-is-always-greenfuzzler type people and whatever they are doing is the best and everything else is crap.

I can see liking other parts of the world more than others, but their last post painting the Caribbean and S. Pacific as terrible destinations is pretty ignorant.
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their last post painting the Caribbean and S. Pacific as terrible destinations is pretty ignorant.
The Defintion of Ignorant:
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

You may not agree with their opinon, but you really can't call their comments "ignorant" since they have been there after all.

You also have to remember, and I get this all the time, when you have a different opinion than someone else on what Cruising is or should be, you are attacking etheir their dreams or memories. So right away you get the kneejerk push back.


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I have a couple of friends who recently crossed there path to complete their circumnavigation. After 5 years, they told me that Mexico is their favorite place. South Pacific...so, so.
I've had the same reports from my cruising friends.
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Cruising with kids is a TOTALLY different experience than two adults out cruising without kids. We did the "with kids" thing and next time (3.75yrs away) we will do it without kids. I can agree with Rebel's comment...we love our kids...but will love it when they can come and visit!!!

As for Mexico being the 3rd world...won't touch it but have you been to Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles?
Mexico is officially an upper-tier 2 developing country. Anyone who thinks it is a third-world country hasn't been to one, and Mexico.
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I haven't read very much, mostly because they seem to be very the grass-is-always-greenfuzzler type people and whatever they are doing is the best and everything else is crap.
Huh. Not my experience of them at all.

I expected a change was coming for them but was thinking more along the lines of sailing S. America, they seem to have itchy feet like all other travellers. The RV move was a suprise but am looking forward to following the new adventure.
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How sad for the armchair sailors, whoever shall they cast stones at now from the comfort of their keyboards?

Oh, never mind they shall always find someone...


Best of luck to the Bumfuzzles in their future adventures!
Those of us who criticised their gung-ho approach to safety (not doing any kind of shakedown cruises on the cat, not testing key systems, and so on) were called armchair sailors, I remember that well.

I guess Robin Knox-Johnston is an armchair sailor then, entering the 1968 Golden Globe in a tried and tested boat, well prepared. Donald Crowhurst was an adventurer. Hmmmm.
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I haven't read very much, mostly because they seem to be very the grass-is-always-greenfuzzler type people and whatever they are doing is the best and everything else is crap.

I can see liking other parts of the world more than others, but their last post painting the Caribbean and S. Pacific as terrible destinations is pretty ignorant.
I think instead of saying "I haven't read much", perhaps, not read enough. They are generally positive with a can do attitude. I would like to know where the term "terrible" came from their blog.
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Those of us who criticised their gung-ho approach to safety (not doing any kind of shakedown cruises on the cat, not testing key systems, and so on) were called armchair sailors, I remember that well.

I guess Robin Knox-Johnston is an armchair sailor then, entering the 1968 Golden Globe in a tried and tested boat, well prepared. Donald Crowhurst was an adventurer. Hmmmm.
Yes...it's amazing the Bumfizzle's survived the ordeal.
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