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Old 16-04-2014, 19:46   #31
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What are the criteria moving from 3 to 4?
Needs to keep within range of a tow that won't break the bank.
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Old 17-04-2014, 05:54   #32
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I would think "fit for anything" doesn't sound like a descriptor for any boat! Maybe I'm on a 3.5 vessel.
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Old 17-04-2014, 06:20   #33
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Indeed, Also the NE. Short seasons. But watch for deck delimitation from poor winter storage and ice.
That is exactly why I didn't buy the first boat I was going to buy, during survey we discovered spiderweb cracking in the decks and the moisture meter pegged out there. Boat was originally a great lakes boat and we theorized it went through a couple of freeze / thaw cycles with a wet core.
Current owner bought her without a survey and was shocked at our findings
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Old 18-04-2014, 16:29   #34
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My boat's 10 years older than the Titanic, which just goes to show how long riveted iron can last, just as long you avoid icebergs...
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My boat's 10 years older than the Titanic, which just goes to show how long riveted iron can last, just as long you avoid icebergs...

That is amazing. Details please? Photos?
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:28   #36
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Wood! That's the ticket. My boat was built in 1995. Partially sunk twice as near as I can tell. The first was a monster norther that destroyed the marina and shoved everything up on the beach. The second the PO hit a reef (big ol rock). As a result she got new bullworks and refastened planks, beautiful! Sails are new, interior like a piano, engine low time. The only things I had to chuck out were worn out pumps and heaters. The Nav stuff is old but works great. Even the radar and AP are good. Just had the rig surveyed and its fine too.....so what the heck, lots of sanding and painting every year but she'll out live me.
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Since your post is nothing but something throw out to be insulting it is taken as offensive just as you wished.
Apologizes if the reply was taken as offensive. It was meant as good natured bantering. Nine twelve hour night shifts and a few rums after the last one and before posting, made me seem funnier in my own head.

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That is amazing. Details please? Photos?
She's an old (1902) 64' x13' Dutch sailing barge (Tjalk) that Dan Rowan (Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In) brought back from France in the late '60s. Very roomy.
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She's an old (1902) 64' x13' Dutch sailing barge (Tjalk) that Dan Rowan (Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In) brought back from France in the late '60s. Very roomy.
Quite amazing. No keel on that beast? Do you sail it in only very protected waters?
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Quite amazing. No keel on that beast? Do you sail it in only very protected waters?
For Dutch people it is logical not to have a keel below such a large boat. Dutch waters are very shallow, and even the VOC oceangoing vessels (Indonesia-bound and beyond) had no keels. Instead, they used heavy materials as ballast, low down in the boat (for instance: building stone for forts etc).

These boats (Tjalks) were built as freighters to sail on our lakes. They are quite seaworthy but do run the risk of being swamped by higher waves. We occasionally have a sinking here when people take these boats out in conditions they are not designed for. Knowledge is being lost all the time.... But thankfully we still have hundreds of these old ships sailing our waters - they are called the "Brown Fleet" because of their brown sails. The colour is the result of the tanning process, which preserved the sails (preventing funghi etc).

They also existed as horse- or mandrawn barges, without sails. Thanks to all the little canals we have in our flat country, it was quite an efficient way of moving stuff about.

The Friesian barges - skutsjes, are famous for the races that held with them. Here's a video of them in action.



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Quite amazing. No keel on that beast? Do you sail it in only very protected waters?
JazzyO pretty much said it all. The leeboards are used to keep the boat from slipping sideways under sail, especially when it's un-laden and sitting high. Loydes insures them for up to Category 5 seas, but I don't think you'll be seeing this one in that kind of water any time soon.

I've never sailed her personally, in fact, I've never sailed at all. I just motored her up from Fort Lauderdale a year ago, and she's been getting spruced-up on the hard practically ever since.
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your boat isn't older. Your years are just shorter.
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your boat isn't older. Your years are just shorter.
I don't feel that I'm willing to accept that
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