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Old 03-01-2019, 13:55   #76
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Your sincerity as well as your manners are impressive.
It is called sarcasm, looks like you can dish it out but can’t take it.
Seriously, if you are concerned that some licensed Masters have no idea how operate their vessels, you should contact the US Coast Guard and report it as a safety issue.
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Re: Beware people who say they have a Captains License but do not.

Just to add to this conversation. I have delivered several boats for new owners that their insurance company mandated they hire a USCG licensed captain to take it to their home port.
On another note. I have talked to a number of people that tell me they are a licensed captain. In the course of the conversation, I ask them about their TWIC card. Their response was. What the hell is that. That immediately tells me they haven't had a license in at least 15 years. So be careful and ask to see their license. Then look for the expiration date. It's good for 5 years.
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Anchorman, when I ask the girls if they would like to see my TWIC they usually dial 911.

Seriously, on my last renewal, almost five years ago already, the universal TWIC requirement had been dropped for those of us who don't work at a secured port facility or are not assigned to crews whose maritime operations require them. Most of those people get the cards paid for by their employers.
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It is called sarcasm, looks like you can dish it out but can’t take it.
Seriously, if you are concerned that some licensed Masters have no idea how operate their vessels, you should contact the US Coast Guard and report it as a safety issue.
Thanks but you've proven to be no one I'm interested in taking advice from. Have a nice day.
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Re: Beware people who say they have a Captains License but do not.

What about RYA Yachtmaster Ocean WITH commercial STCW indorsement , valid medical, STCW 78, PPR addition that is.


https://www.rya.org.uk/courses-train...orsements.aspx


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Thnx for your view about this
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I have a USCG Coast Guard License and all the documents. You might want to add another piece. Insurance. Two years ago I was asked to act as skipper on a boat delivery from Virginia to The BVI's. The owner was to be aboard. When I accepted he asked me to contact his insurance company. When I did the insurance company asked me what experience I had on "this route?" I had not made this route. I had lived abroad and cruised the Bahamas. I had chartered in the BVI's. I had sailed 28 years in the west coast. Sailed on significantly larger boats then the one I was to deliver. To the insurance company if you hadn't sailed the route they would cover the boat with me as captain.
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Anchorman, when I ask the girls if they would like to see my TWIC they usually dial 911.

Seriously, on my last renewal, almost five years ago already, the universal TWIC requirement had been dropped for those of us who don't work at a secured port facility or are not assigned to crews whose maritime operations require them. Most of those people get the cards paid for by their employers.
Jmschmidt: You are clearly asking the question the wrong way, you should state: "I will show you my TWIC if you will show me your TWIC? A long shoreman or a teamster will readily pull out theirs as they routinely do such every day on the job. And they will allow you to handle their TWIC.

Indeed the Transport Workers Indentification Card is only needed for personnel to gain access to secure areas of MSTA regulated facilities or vessels so as to not require being escorted in such secure areas during the performance of their duties. The TWIC truly has nothing to do with a person's mariner's prowess. It is to validate identification for security purposes and to allow entry.

All personnel or workers who need access to secure areas of Maritime Transportation Security Act (MTSA) regulated facilities or vessels are required to have a valid Transportation Worker Identification Card (TWIC) or be escorted during the performance of their duties. It is used for all trades, for anyone who requires access, e.g., merchant marines, truckers, repair and maintenance, administrative, routine suppliers, port workers, long shorepersons [men being so not PC, and length has nothing to do with the profession], etc.

TSA conducts a security threat assessment (background check) to determine a person’s eligibility and issues the credential. U.S. citizens and immigrants in certain immigration categories may apply for the credential. Most commercial shipping mariners licensed by the U.S. Coast Guard also require a credential. The National Maritime Center uses the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) as their primary source for information when conducting background investigations.
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On July 10, 2018, TSA began issuing a new more secure TWIC®. The new design aims to deter counterfeiting efforts and mitigate the fraudulent use of the credential by incorporating enhanced security features. The new card design is compatible with qualified TWIC® readers.

The TWIC requirement would also apply to drug and alcohol testing personnel who enter secure areas of MTSA facilities or vessels in order to collect drug tests or to perform alcohol tests. Individuals who require access to a MTSA regulated facility or vessel without a TWIC can be escorted but escorting provisions are at the discretion of the facility or vessel operator. If an operator opts to escort individuals without TWICs, escorting will be carried out in accordance with Navigation Vessel Inspection Circular (NVIC) 03-07 which can be found at http://homeport.uscg.mil.

If you are a service agent that contemplates providing services within a MTSA regulated facility or vessel, it is strongly advised that service agents obtain further information on how to apply for a TWIC and the correct use of a TWIC. A service agent can also work through their contractor for assistance in obtaining a TWIC. [As jmschmidt stated it is not necessary for typical "private" yacht transport services because such recreational vessel are generally not located within regulated facilities and are not in themselves regulated vessels. It's not like one is moving or working on an LNG tanker when delivering a yacht.

The websites where this information may be obtained at either the USCG or the TSA websites: http://homeport.uscg.mil under the Maritime Security/TWIC heading or at the website for Transportation Security Administration http://www.tsa.gov/ under the TWIC Information heading on the lower left portion of the page. A booklet titled “Transportation Worker Identification Credential Program: Small Entity Guide for Owners and Operators” is available at the previously listed Internet sites.


Whereas, the Merchant Mariner Credential (MMC) is a credential issued by the United States Coast Guard in accordance with guidelines of the International Convention on Standards of Training, Certification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers (STCW) to United States seafarers in order to show evidence of a mariner's qualifications. There also being the related Medical Certificate which basically proves one is fit for the task. Medical Certificates display the certificate issue and expiration dates for service under National, STCW and/or First Class Pilot Endorsements. For example, if the mariner is sailing under STCW, then the expiration date displayed for STCW applies. If the STCW and Pilot expiration dates are past but the National date is still valid, the mariner may continue to sail under the authority of their National Endorsement(s) until a new Medical Certificate has been issued.
REQUIREMENT TO CARRY: All credentialed U.S. Mariners who have been issued a medical certificate must carry both a valid MMC and Medical Certificate to sail under the authority of their MMC. All mariners holding STCW Endorsements should currently hold a Medical Certificate and in all cases are required to have a valid Medical Certificate to sail under the authority of their STCW Endorsement by January 1, 2017. All credentialed U.S. Mariners must have a valid Medical Certificate by March 24, 2019 in order to sail under the authority of their MMC.

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I have a USCG Coast Guard License and all the documents. You might want to add another piece. Insurance. Two years ago I was asked to act as skipper on a boat delivery from Virginia to The BVI's. The owner was to be aboard. When I accepted he asked me to contact his insurance company. When I did the insurance company asked me what experience I had on "this route?" I had not made this route. I had lived abroad and cruised the Bahamas. I had chartered in the BVI's. I had sailed 28 years in the west coast. Sailed on significantly larger boats then the one I was to deliver. To the insurance company if you hadn't sailed the route they would NOT cover the boat with me as captain.
I have made an amendment to your post above, in italicized red font.

Happ, insurance underwriting is very specific as to coverage and as to any extension of its coverage. The devil is very much in the details and reading the scope of coverage in policy language requires legal expertise. The insurance company is seeking to mitigate their risk by requiring expertise and experience meaningful to the hazard related to their coverage. Requiring specific knowledge and extensive experience in piloting the route seems very reasonable. Captains of commercial ships and cruise liners have pilots come aboard to enter and exit ports for a reason beyond just the regulatory requirements. Those that have been there and done that many times before are more likely to be able to do such yet again.
The insurance company merely desires to stack the odds more in their favor as to having "Captains" that have survived going over Niagara Falls in a barrel if the route includes such passage and if the vessel is a barrel. I have heard that Evil Knievel's insurance would have become easier to obtain if he stayed within the limits of the number of cars he had previously safe jumped, instead of always trying to jump yet further.

Then there is the matter of limiting the scope of their underwriting to covering "the boat" for specific hazards and uses, which boat coverage very likely will not extend to covering your professional liabilities as Captain and an independent contractor. Hence as a boat owner, I would be desiring to see the scope and limits of your professional charter and / or delivery captain liability insurance coverage before hiring as a Captain and confirming such coverage is in good standing through the period of delivery. By way of example: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8di9siyj73...engl..pdf?dl=0
https://www.rbskipper.com/delivery-insurance/

I would also be seeking confirmation of the scope of worker's compensation insurance for the hired Captain and crew and of such insurance being in good standing.

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If I had one of these, would it get me any credit?
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Re: Beware people who say they have a Captains License but do not.

I'm confused a bit. Isn't the lowest level captains (or whatever you want to call it) license for 6 pack? And would one have that passport looking certification for that? How high up the "captains" ladder can you go before you get the "passport" and what do those lower licenses look like?
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If I had one of these, would it get me any credit?
A truly honorable commendation. I got one of those once when the crew was dying of thirst and I used my innovative thinking to crack open a keg of beer and poured a bunch of cold ones, thence followed by dispensing daily rations of rum. Moral improved tremendously, likely staved off a mutiny.

Indeed, it should provide some credit for at least for sailing within the Argus Sector of the Alpha Quadrant with a vessel flagged of the StarFleet.

But be sure to not bring your phaser, unless you also have a carry license and declare when arriving at a port else you may fall foul of the border and customs agents, especially when entering either of the Cardassian Union, the Klingon Empire, and Romulan Star Empire. Certainly a keen subject for yet another weapons on board thread on this forum.

The Alpha Quadrant is the common designation for one-quarter of the Milky Way Galaxy. It is adjacent to the Beta Quadrant and the Gamma Quadrant.

FYI. Systems within the Argus Sector include:

The Argus System is a system located in the Argus Sector of the Alpha Quadrant. In 2268 the tenth planet was found to have a large vein of tritanium ore. It was also found to be a temporary home of the Dikironium cloud creature before it fled the crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise.

The Omega Sagitta System is a system located in the Argus Sector of the Alpha Quadrant. The twin planets of the system, Atlec and Straleb, form the independent Coalition of Madena.
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If I had one of these, would it get me any credit?
Unless it has been recorded into the Captain's Logo [with appropriate Star Dating], just don't expect such commendation to warrant being promoted anytime soon.
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> passport looking certification

is the MMC

Has subsumed all CG qualifications.

Higher and lower, are indicated within
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Those that can't.......'teach'
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The most incompetent I have encountered through the years (but adored by insurance co's) are the 'all ocean/all tonnage' fully licensed captains. They qualify because of their decades of dedicated service as an engine wiper or cooks assistant aboard a freighter. Totally clueless and bluffing.
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