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Old 13-02-2016, 18:13   #1
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Another One Aground on Bramble Bank

I'm aboard my boat at Cowes, and just saw a massive (370 meters) supercontainer ship, the APL Vanda, go aground on Bramble Bank just under the ramparts of Cowes Castle. Just a few months after the car carrier Hoegh Osaka went aground on the other side of the same bank, which I also happened to witness. The Hoegh Osaka got neaped, and had to wait until the next spring tide to get floated off.

Every tug in Southampton harbor came out to help (and that's a whole heap of tugs), and they've just floated her off on the tide. I watched the whole drama on AIS, after I got tired of standing on deck in the cold rain.

What is in the air here?
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Re: Another One Aground on Bramble Bank

Hmmm, you seem to always be nearby? Not sailing with a handful of bikini clad babes on deck, by chance :-)

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Old 13-02-2016, 19:07   #3
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Hmmm, you seem to always be nearby? Not sailing with a handful of bikini clad babes on deck, by chance :-)

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Bikinis? At 50 degrees N in February? You jest, sir. At most, mink fur panties. Or rather, Goretex, maybe with a Lifa base layer, in the weather we've been having. And not on deck . . .
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Oh, that could be a bit nipply, err, nippy then :-o

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Re: Another One Aground on Bramble Bank

The news is reporting intentional grounding after loss of propulsion? Will be interesting to hear the details.
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Re: Another One Aground on Bramble Bank

See? I tole you what will happen if you get fixated on that damn chart plotter ;-0!

You might remember a BC Ferry, Queen of the North (formerly Stena Danica), trying to sink an island on the run from Prince Rupert to Port Hardy. The island (Gil Island) won. The investigation found that neither the OOW (m) nor the helms(wo)man knew how to disengage the autopilot and that commands had been `confused`in the minutes prior to the grounding. Unkind speculation based on knowledge that the two had had a tumultous affair in the months prior suggested that the confusion arose from hanky-panky interuptus during the critical period.

Just another illustration of the dangers of burying your nose in ANYTHING when you have the watch!

It`s also indicative of why I shun Active Pass. Commercial traffic is too dense for my liking. And some bridge officers are obviously also dense :-)


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Re: Another One Aground on Bramble Bank

Active Pass is OK if you have Class B AIS. The ferries and other commercial boats see you and you see them well in advance of going through the pass. The power boat crowd don't care too much about current but most sailboats will have to monitor them carefully.
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You are right, of course - the ferries are very good about the pleasure craft in the pass, and obviously, if required I will go through there.

But being outta West Vancouver, Gabriola and Porlier are the easy ways into and outta the islands for me. I do have another consideration though: Given the plenitood of stinkpots lying about the Pass at all hours, I think it's no more than common courtesy to the ferry skippers to go the other way. Their lives are complicated enuff already.

I agree that AIS is dandy - but you gotta learn to live without it :-)!

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See? I tole you what will happen if you get fixated on that damn chart plotter ;-0!

You might remember a BC Ferry, Queen of the North (formerly Stena Danica), trying to sink an island on the run from Prince Rupert to Port Hardy. The island (Gil Island) won. The investigation found that neither the OOW (m) nor the helms(wo)man knew how to disengage the autopilot and that commands had been `confused`in the minutes prior to the grounding. Unkind speculation based on knowledge that the two had had a tumultous affair in the months prior suggested that the confusion arose from hanky-panky interuptus during the critical period.

Just another illustration of the dangers of burying your nose in ANYTHING when you have the watch!

It`s also indicative of why I shun Active Pass. Commercial traffic is too dense for my liking. And some bridge officers are obviously also dense :-)


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So I guess next you'll be advocating taking all ECIDS screens off the bridges of ships?


In this incident, you are assuming a lot! In fact the ship lost power, and was nudged onto the bank to keep it from drifting off in the strong tidal current. This happened on a rising tide. About a million tugboats converged on it (it was an amazing sight on AIS; wish I'd taken a screen shot) and pulled it away just a few hours later. By all accounts, some very good seamanship going on.


A different question, of course, is how does an almost new ship costing God knows how many hundreds of millions, has a propulsion plant that is liable to shut down like that. Some heads must be rolling over that.
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I do wish they'd STOP parking boats on the bluddi cricket pitch...
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About half ten last night..

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Not assuming anything at all!

Merely beating my drum for keeping a sharp lookout at all times, electric gizmos notwithstanding, and for not messing with the helmsman (m OR f), alleged RN tradition notwithstanding.

I'm also a keen advocate of knowing the difference between making your living on the sea and being a Sunday-sailor. I thank the good Lord that she made me the latter. I do my level best to give assorted ferry skippers, tow-boat skippers and fishing boat skippers as little cause for anxiety as possible ;-)

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A different question, of course, is how does an almost new ship costing God knows how many hundreds of millions, has a propulsion plant that is liable to shut down like that. Some heads must be rolling over that.
Built by the lowest bidder comes to mind!


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Re: Another One Aground on Bramble Bank

In fact, Hoegh Osaka was "beached" intentionally on the Brable bank to prevent her from capsizing after she listed to 52° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Hoegh_Osaka

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In fact, Hoegh Osaka was "beached" intentionally on the Brable bank to prevent her from capsizing after she listed to 52° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Hoegh_Osaka

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Indeed. I was there. Some pretty fast thinking and good seamanship there

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That was some crazy stuff.


The ship was saved and put right back into service. I hope the bridge and crew got big bonuses.
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