Originally Posted by iannitram
I'm in the bay area shopping
for a Catalina 27 right now. Saw this this morning:
CATALINA BAY SAILER 27'
Now...lets assume I could knock 500 off that and get it for 1500. What's the WORST case scenario of repairs
it would need and guesses to cost? New mainsail
, new engine, haul out
, bottom painting?
Any ball parks at what I might be looking at if worst comes to worst?
If you were only using her as a Bay Sailor, then I would say that a couple of K likely the most she would need. Could spend is another matter.
My guess would be that a haulout would very likely be needed to antifoul her, if looking for some sort of sailing ability. Or at the least a diver to clean her in the water
would be worth a close inspection
both to ensure not blown (baggy) as the fix for that is likely new (or s/h) rather than a recut and also to make sure any damage (loose stitching / tears) was repaired before they got expensive. That can be done DIY with a needle - just takes time.
Likely the rigging
is original, and as mast
coming down would be a PITA and cost a bit I would be closely inspecting the shrouds and forestay / backstay for damage (run your hands up and down them, especially at the terminals - and if you go ouch and draw blood then time to replace!, and even if not 7 - 10 years is the recommended life span, albeit plenty on 20 years plus. Each gets to pick own crapshoot).
Even if the bottom is riddled with Osmosis
then likely won't sink her (make it hard to sell if someone notices though), I would just suck that up. Looks like a hull
liner so probably hard to tell if the bulkheads are still well attached, and likely also cored decks - me would take her out for a sail anyway before buying
(motor works under load, sails go up - water
stays outside!) and see that she doesn't change shape or make too many noises. Internal and cupboard doors still opening / closing also a good sign! Could even do some measuring under the mast before and during sailing. Likely won't be perfect, especially the decks being a bit spongy (wet core) - but IMO that is a suck it up at this age and price
, and I would not bother even trying to "fix" it later.
On the sucking it up angle, likely the electrics will be original and have also been DIY'd by various owners.........
For me the biggie is the engine, I would throw a mechanic
at it before purchase
t ogive a report and factor in a good service
and have plan B (if engine goes pop big time or more likely starts eating cash) of putting an o/b on the back.
Appreicate that time likely an issue here, but the trick will be not buying
a POS that does not actually work on day 1 and needs money
thrown at her to leave the dock
(money which won't be coming back upon resale) - the risk is that it won't work on day 2!, but that comes with the territory in this price
range - and you get to suck up some degree of POS
I would also not simply assume she could stay where she is and make sure before buying where you will be keeping her and how much it costs - and whether she (and you?!) can reach there under own keel
Most of the couple of K is for "stuff" - things which have not yet been identified but always "stuff" that needs fixing.......would be wise to have a read of a DIY surveying book.
I would also make sure you got as much equipment
with her as poss (even s/h things add up), stuff like Dinks, GPS
etc - all the stuff that will be needed for whatever use you will want to make of her.