Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-05-2011, 05:09   #1
Senior Cruiser
 
reiner's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brisbane
Boat: 39ft Challenger and a 16ft Scruffie " Oma Martha"
Posts: 266
Images: 6
Sails and Rigging Made in China

A good friend of mine got a quote for his mainsail here in Australia and another quote in China. The sail from China is pretty much half price to what we pay here. His rigging needs doing too.
What are the thoughts on buying in China?
I know they have been building boats long enough so in general it can't be to bad or is it?
Thanks
Reiner
__________________

__________________
reiner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 05:20   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney
Boat: Lexcen 40 - Leverage
Posts: 383
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by reiner View Post
A good friend of mine got a quote for his mainsail here in Australia and another quote in China. The sail from China is pretty much half price to what we pay here. His rigging needs doing too.
What are the thoughts on buying in China?
I know they have been building boats long enough so in general it can't be to bad or is it?
Thanks
Reiner
Can't comment about China, but I got a quote here in Sydney for a new main and just like most things over here, it was hideously expensive. Anything you can buy from overseas, DO IT, it's bound to be cheaper (and probably better too)!

(I got my new main from Mauri Pro Sailing - Sailboat Hardware, Sailing Gear and Sailboat Equipment - Made in the US for about half the price of an Aussie made one, and only $80 shipping - flat rate)
__________________

__________________
akio.kanemoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 11:32   #3
Registered User
 
SabreKai's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada on Lake Ontario
Boat: Roberts Offshore 38
Posts: 1,287
Images: 5
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

I've only ever ordered a sail from offshore once. Lee Sails. The sail was very well made, delivered on time and performed as expected.

Rigging on the other hand, I'd be leery of, as the quality of Chinese stainless steel is suspect at the best of times. Unless they are willing to prove the quality of the materials with documentation, I'd never be totally at ease with it.

Sabre
__________________
SabreKai
SV Sabre Dance, Roberts Offshore 38
http://sabredancing.wordpress.com/
SabreKai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 12:07   #4
Registered User
 
jim767's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kentucky, Little River, SC
Boat: Skookum 53
Posts: 96
Images: 2
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

I would echo the concerns over quality control for Chinese made items.
Until last year I visited mainland China numerous times a year and bought many electronic gadgets and the such. Many times the exterior of the unit would look identical to the genuine article but on closer examination I found the internal components to be little more than junk.

Many Chinese items are high quality but it is definitely a buyer beware market.
__________________
jim767 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 15:12   #5
Registered User
 
S/V Alchemy's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Toronto
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,576
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

There is a history of decent sails made in China to order, but there is also a history of crappy metallurgy, as anyone looking for a durable hand tool could testify. Caveat emptor.
__________________
S/V Alchemy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 15:15   #6
Senior Cruiser
 
Blue Stocking's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,114
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by S/V Alchemy View Post
There is a history of decent sails made in China to order, but there is also a history of crappy metallurgy, as anyone looking for a durable hand tool could testify. Caveat emptor.
One would think they would have perfected sail-making by now.
They have been doing it for 8 thousand years.
__________________
so many projects--so little time !!
Blue Stocking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 15:43   #7
Commercial Member
 
Mark Johnson's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: New Bern NC
Boat: Searunner 34 Trimaran
Posts: 1,565
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

15 years ago I got our Neil Pride "blue water" sails that were sewn in Hong Kong, but finishing touches were done in the US. Only the parts done in the US were less than perfect! These are the toughest sails I have ever seen, and they are still in REALLY good shape. Now that they are technically China, I don't really know... but I'd trust them again for sails.

For rigging, hardware, SS shackles, chain, etc... NOT ON YOUR LIFE. I have seen too much of this sort of thing, that I didn't like, "made in China". The problem here, is quality control... Mark
__________________
Mark Johnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 17:41   #8
Senior Cruiser
 
bstreep's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX/Port Aransas, TX
Boat: 1990 Macintosh 47, "Merlin"
Posts: 2,274
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Johnson View Post
15 years ago I got our Neil Pride "blue water" sails that were sewn in Hong Kong, but finishing touches were done in the US. Only the parts done in the US were less than perfect! These are the toughest sails I have ever seen, and they are still in REALLY good shape. Now that they are technically China, I don't really know... but I'd trust them again for sails.

For rigging, hardware, SS shackles, chain, etc... NOT ON YOUR LIFE. I have seen too much of this sort of thing, that I didn't like, "made in China". The problem here, is quality control... Mark
I second this.
__________________
Bill Streep
San Antonio/Port Aransas, TX
bstreep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 18:22   #9
Registered User
 
markpierce's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,413
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

My boat's sails are from Lee Sails in Hong Kong.

Lee Sails: Sailmaker to the world

__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 19:09   #10
Registered User
 
Dragon Lady's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Lavezzi 40, Pourpre
Posts: 949
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

I would say go for it with the sails but be very careful with the rigging.
If a sail rips it's a pain, but not the end of the world, if your rigging fails it could be the end of you.
__________________
Dragon Lady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 19:21   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. Martin
Boat: St. Francis 43 Brisa
Posts: 333
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

One of my friends replaced his main and headsail... 4000 usd vs the quoted from the local sailmaker for 8000. That was over a year ago... he still says they are like new... no problems.
__________________
sailingaway221 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 19:27   #12
Registered User
 
tager's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Vashon, WA
Boat: Haida 26', 18' Sea Kayak, 15' kayak, 6.5' skiff, shorts
Posts: 837
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

I have heard one china mainsail horrorstory. I don't remember the URL or the specifics but the sail was basically unusable. The company offered nothing to make it right.
__________________
tager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 19:51   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 586
Images: 3
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

If you buy sails made by American workers it allows those folks to live in the USA. More expensive....YES. If you buy from China, it takes the work away from those who would like to live in here the USA and gives it to people in China who work for pennies. You can act just like a large corporation. Keep buying from cheap countries until ALL our artisans and craftsmen are gone.
__________________
smurphny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 20:08   #14
Registered User
 
sww914's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Punta De Mita
Boat: Vagabond 39 Hull # 1
Posts: 1,842
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

I read an article in a sailing rag a few months ago about sailmaking. Most of the sails from the big companies are made in China. You pay a US company thinking you're getting a made in the US product and it turns out that it's made somewhere else anyway. You don't know unless you know.
__________________
sww914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 20:10   #15
Registered User
 
97fxdwg's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Alaska
Boat: Beneteau 41S5
Posts: 111
Re: Sails and Rigging made in China.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurphny View Post
If you buy sails made by American workers it allows those folks to live in the USA. More expensive....YES. If you buy from China, it takes the work away from those who would like to live in here the USA and gives it to people in China who work for pennies. You can act just like a large corporation. Keep buying from cheap countries until ALL our artisans and craftsmen are gone.
You're right of course, but what is a cruiser on a very limited income, or even no income, supposed to do? Buy American and eat mac and cheese for 2 years, or buy Chinese, and sail? Tough decision in reality, easy to deal with in theory. Reality bites, but there it is.
__________________

__________________
97fxdwg is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
China, rigging, sails, china

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Sails & Rigging Cost for a 40-50' Sailboat BillAU Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 20 24-01-2010 14:14
For Sale: Racing Sails and Rigging for Jeanneau 37 jeffbrainard Classifieds Archive 3 13-11-2009 07:27
New 'Made in China' Prouts ? jacket_fan Multihull Sailboats 21 27-08-2009 05:39
Check Your 'Made in China' Hose Clamps ! svHyLyte Construction, Maintenance & Refit 37 08-12-2007 09:37
question about cost:bottom job, sails, rigging??? dustinp Construction, Maintenance & Refit 27 18-11-2007 06:06



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:14.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.