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Old 27-06-2013, 17:24   #46
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He is talking mostly FL Keys and Bahamas. Some of your choices are way too deep and/or on the other side of the US from where he wants to go.
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Old 27-06-2013, 17:26   #47
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One last piece of advice that became very clear to me after looking at 100+ boats online and 30+ in the flesh.

You buy the owner, not the boat.
Good comment.
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Old 27-06-2013, 17:31   #48
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He is talking mostly FL Keys and Bahamas. Some of your choices are way too deep and/or on the other side of the US from where he wants to go.
Good catch. One of the compromises I am forced to make is a relatively shallow draft. I don't really have a choice about this one.
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Old 27-06-2013, 17:49   #49
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Good catch. One of the compromises I am forced to make is a relatively shallow draft. I don't really have a choice about this one.
Well...not to toot my own horn but a Hallberg Rassy 35 Rasmus has 4'3" draft and available mostly under $40K.
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Old 27-06-2013, 18:44   #50
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I'm not going to provide any fuel. All I can say is that I bought a 10 year Hunter that I didn't have to do any repairs that cost more than $100 for the first year. The last 2 years I have had to do some more expensive repairs, but these have all been to non Hunter parts like an autopilot.

To date I have had 0 problems with any part of the boat built by Hunter.

Those are just the facts!
That's because the prev owner had replaced all that stuff at 7-8 years! haha
Seeriously, yeah 7-8 years may be too short I suppose, for some things anyway. but: Stuffing box? no, Head hoses? no, Batteries? no, chain? prob no, fresh water pump? no, water heater? no, electronics? no, running rigging? Prob not... etc... But if things are working, what the heck keep using them!
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Old 28-06-2013, 07:02   #51
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Re: Quest for the perfect cruiser

I think very few boats break down dramatically while at the dock.

Any boat is good for a liveaboard. When small way cruising is done in local areas what seems to count most are engines and APs. If a boat is taken offshore and across then any element and system onboard may may get tested to its limits and, yes, things of poor quality WILL break. And quality is not in a name but much rather it is good design and adequate materials used, then proper maintenance.

So much depends on the intended and actual use.

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Old 28-06-2013, 07:16   #52
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I think very few boats break down dramatically while at the dock.

Any boat is good for a liveaboard. When small way cruising is done in local areas what seems to count most are engines and APs. If a boat is taken offshore and across then any element and system onboard may may get tested to its limits and, yes, things of poor quality WILL break. And quality is not in a name but much rather it is good design and adequate materials used, then proper maintenance.

So much depends on the intended and actual use.

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What are APs?

And what does this mean? "And quality is not in a name but much rather it is good design and adequate materials used, then proper maintenance."
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What are APs?

And what does this mean? "And quality is not in a name but much rather it is good design and adequate materials used, then proper maintenance."
Autopilots..
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Old 28-06-2013, 07:48   #54
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Even a new boat might not be ready to go... Think tanks, solar and things like that. I would rather start with a sound hull and rigging cheap and refit new the rest. Just my opinion
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What are APs?

And what does this mean? "And quality is not in a name but much rather it is good design and adequate materials used, then proper maintenance."
Yes. Autopilots.

In the marina, AC counts. Cruising, AP counts. Offshore, ALL counts ;-)

What I wanted to express is that it is not in the make of the boat where the guarantee of quality is. I would not care about whether the boat came from Hunter or from Hallberg-Rassy: I would look at how she is designed and built and use her in a way that is in line with these factors.

And the maintenance thing is obvious: get a top-shelf boat and let her sit unused at the dock for three years. Then jump into the cockpit, cast the lines and go sailing. You may not go very far.

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Old 28-06-2013, 09:47   #56
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Re: Quest for the perfect cruiser

One thing on the "want to have" list is a boat with a soul or some character.

You know, something that makes your heart thump a little louder.

That's a point in favor of an older boat.

That means I'll be compromising on something.
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Do you have a specific limit in mind on the draft of the boat?
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Old 28-06-2013, 11:01   #58
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i know you said mono... but the gemini 105MC is a perfect boat for older people.
just was chatting with a 105 owner. they were 75. they love it.
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Old 28-06-2013, 11:19   #59
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i know you said mono... but the gemini 105MC is a perfect boat for older people.
just was chatting with a 105 owner. they were 75. they love it.

I'm only 50, so I don't want to sign up for the "older people" category just yet. I'm on a sliding scale that allows for age as I attain it.
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Old 28-06-2013, 11:20   #60
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I'm only 50, so I don't want to sign up for the "older people" category just yet. I'm on a sliding scale that allows for age as I attain it.
lol.
what do you think of the boat thou? its not too wide... and with a shallow draft it opens up much more of the great loop.
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