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Old 27-03-2016, 12:51   #1
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Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

I am about to place an offer on a 1985 H-R 352 that is in overall good shape but needs a new deck. The current teak deck is heaved up in a few spots the owner said this is the next major project that he intends to fix if he kept the boat.

He was saying that the teak could be stripped and replaced with an awlgrip on the deck for a cost saving alternative, but otherwise a new teak deck would be between 15-20K.

I will have the boat surveyed after we reach an agreement on price but before I get the ball rolling with an offer I just want to make sure I am not getting myself into a money pit of a fix. So my question is, is stripping the teak and placing awlgrip down make sense? Do people do this and does it look good? I would do it myself, and based on some posts it looks like quite a process :/ Also how much should I take off of his asking price for the deck issue?

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Old 27-03-2016, 13:45   #2
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

I use to build / install teak decks for 20 years. I love the project but on my own boat -no way! I would remove the deck, fill all the fastener holes and Awlgrip. Be sure before the purchase there hasn't been water penetration into the core. That could add a lot of additional work - but it is doable. Can make for a good negotiation point in your favor if you can do the work.


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Old 27-03-2016, 13:48   #3
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

Personally, I'd look into installing a teak substitute. Not the stick on fake stuff like on the Amels, but a plastic alternative with some thickness for 2/3 the cost of real teak. Find out what's being installed on the new Lagoon cats, the stuff looks and feels like real teak.

Our real teak has around 8-10 years left, so when the time comes to replace, and if we still own the boat.... plastic fake teak will be our choice. I think there's a company out of Florida that produces the stuff.
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Old 27-03-2016, 14:00   #4
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

We removed the teak deck on our Tayana 37 and painted the deck with non skid. Luckily the deck under was ok. The job is just a lot of man hours on your knees. The Tayana deck was in some real good polysulfide and the deck can off in small pieces.....no salvage possible.
Looking back it was the best improvement to the boat we made.
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

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Also how much should I take off of his asking price for the deck issue?
How can anyone answer that?
We don't know what the boat is worth or how much he's asking.
Since the owner himself says he knows it needs to be done, I'd expect his asking price to already reflect that.
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How can anyone answer that?
We don't know what the boat is worth or how much he's asking.
Since the owner himself says he knows it needs to be done, I'd expect his asking price to already reflect that.
Your not supposed to come up with sensible answers gal...
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

Call Teak Decking Systems for a quote on a new deck; be seated.

Fake teak decks are horrible looking.

Or you might repair the existing deck, rather than removing it entirely.
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

What they said, remove it, and paint or use Treadmaster or something else. But as they said, be sure to find out if the core is waterlogged! Does the boat have a screw down deck ? if not.. no worry!
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

If you bite the bullet with plastic things fake teak I guess the problem come with resale value , Awlgrip is a good solution but then come the resale value again , if you don't mind,, Awlgrip can do the trick , otherwise the OEM best solution is to replace the teak , there is a company , I cant remember the name that make teak deck panels in pieces, you just make the patterns, send it, and you receive the deck in panels ready to be glued, no screws involved... expect a $$$ bill but is up to you if is worth or not when it come the time to sell it....
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

I think you're going to see a lot more than $20K for the deck work if you have it done. But don't take my word for it, call some places that do the work, and check it out. Then you at least know a ball park figure.

If the core's wet, that is going to take a lot more time and supplies to fix.

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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

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If you bite the bullet with plastic things fake teak I guess the problem come with resale value , Awlgrip is a good solution but then come the resale value again , if you don't mind,, Awlgrip can do the trick , otherwise the OEM best solution is to replace the teak , there is a company , I cant remember the name that make teak deck panels in pieces, you just make the patterns, send it, and you receive the deck in panels ready to be glued, no screws involved... expect a $$$ bill but is up to you if is worth or not when it come the time to sell it....

The company is Teak Deck Systems - I've installed their product on a dozen or so boats. Some more than 20 yrs old now and still look great.
http://www.teakdecking.com



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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

I would think that no teak decks would increase the resale value. Or at least make it easier to sell.
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

I guess what a HR buyer want is teak, after all they have lots of teak, between a LPU deck job and a nice fresh deck teak in a rassy I put my money in the teak one.
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

I guess I don't know them that well, seems like the teak was almost entirely the decking on the outside. With that gone, maybe handrails and cowl cap?
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck

It's odd that, once a teak deck shows major signs of lifting, a majority jump to the conclusion that an expensive re-decking is necessary, instead of repairing what's already there.
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