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Old 06-11-2013, 18:18   #46
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I enjoy having the owner on board he or she then has a better idea why it took so long to get somewhere. Also usually charge by the month when owner is in board because they like to stop and smell the roses
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Old 06-11-2013, 18:24   #47
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Though the one Gem the OP dropped "I'm also a very cynical person" is something a experienced captain would never have let slide by his notice.
Within reason I would prefer to sail with the cynic. Healthy cynicism is not the same as fatalism.
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Old 06-11-2013, 18:25   #48
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Are you sure these are the only two possibilities? See, I think there are a couple more, with the most likely being $150 is the going rate. You all can keep throwing out big numbers but I'm absolutely positive you can get a qualified skipper who will be more than happy to let a new owner do 99% of the work for $150 per day, plus a return ticket, plus meals, plus one or two really nice dinners on the way. If you are happy at the end, give the skipper a tip. The OP said he planned on taking around 14 days. That's an easy two grand with no expenses during the period. You can't find "real world" jobs like that very easily.
I think it's very possible that my inability to articulate exactly what we would be looking for gave way to the misconceptions on here.

Owner delivery is probably not the best term. Instruction on our own boat is probably the correct term I was going for. I see that now.

You are completely correct that my wife and I would want to do 99-99.9%% of the work. What we are looking for is experience and knowledge to be passed on to us on our own boat while we are physically doing the work.

Neither my wife nor I are sit back and drink wine and complain to the captain about this and that type of people. I would see paying for that to be an absolute waste of time and money for everyone. What a waste that would be and I can completely understand how captains can become absolutely disgruntled (used lightly) from those experiences.

If I'm not doing it with my own hands and eyes, I'm not learning it. A skill I was able to hone in the military. Hard work, little sleep and a sharp mind is what I love.

Just need the guidance, ya know?
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Good to know! Thank you. We're you aboard?
I wasn't aboard but he wouldn't have charged a higher rate if I had been, I just didn't have time to move the boat myself. I can PM his contact info if you want it.
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I agree with everything

Although I'm curious how cynicism fits in...?

Fair enough question. I'm a literal person and the definition of cynicism is probably not quite what you meant. "Cautious" would have been a better word. A good captain worth his salt and deserving of his pay needs to listen very carefully to the owner long before he agrees to take on the job. He needs a combination of good psychological, people, listening, and a boat load of patience skills in order to size up those he takes on board. Anybody can learn to point a boat in the right direction, make it go that way, and end up where he is supposed to and show others to do it as well. That doesn't make one a good captain no matter what courses they've taken. I know a good deal of delivery captains that are far too quick to focus on the money instead of the crew and owners they take on. So be cautious when choosing a captain. Look for some credentials to be sure. But ask for references from several past customers, look for a good sense of humor, engage in a few conversations with him that don't always revolve around his boating skills to feel out what kind of person he is. Just generally get to know him for a few days before the delivery. 14 days at sea is a very long time in close quarters just to find out the first night out that the guy is a self absorbed, arrogant, overly demanding, know it all, taking charge over you and your family. It's just what you should do first. I know before I deliver a boat it's what I as the potential captain will do with the owner who wants to go along.
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Fair enough question. I'm a literal person and the definition of cynicism is probably not quite what you meant. "Cautious" would have been a better word. A good captain worth his salt and deserving of his pay needs to listen very carefully to the owner long before he agrees to take on the job. He needs a combination of good psychological, people, listening, and a boat load of patience skills in order to size up those he takes on board. Anybody can learn to point a boat in the right direction, make it go that way, and end up where he is supposed to and show others to do it as well. That doesn't make one a good captain no matter what courses they've taken. I know a good deal of delivery captains that are far too quick to focus on the money instead of the crew and owners they take on. So be cautious when choosing a captain. Look for some credentials to be sure. But ask for references from several past customers, look for a good sense of humor, engage in a few conversations with him that don't always revolve around his boating skills to feel out what kind of person he is. Just generally get to know him for a few days before the delivery. 14 days at sea is a very long time in close quarters just to find out the first night out that the guy is a self absorbed, arrogant, overly demanding, know it all, taking charge over you and your family. It's just what you should do first. I know before I deliver a boat it's what I as the potential captain will do with the owner who wants to go along.
Stellar advice and it makes sense now. Cheers
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I just read your old thread. What did you end up doing?
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