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Old 25-10-2012, 22:25   #1
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Ocean Delivery Cost

I'm purchasing a new FP Hélia 44. After completion & initial commissioning, it'll have to be delivered from La Rochelle to Annapolis for final commissioning.

I'm just starting to get quotes for this, but if anyone with delivery experience could chime in...what "should" this cost?

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Old 25-10-2012, 22:31   #2
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The cheapest around 100euro/day + expenses to $300-400/day + expenses...
Depends whether you play with free lancers or an established company...
both supply skippers then put out tenders for free crew...
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Old 26-10-2012, 02:08   #3
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Just make sure you pay the Boatman Doc
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Old 27-10-2012, 11:12   #4
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Re: Ocean Delivery Cost

Either a daily rate, as boatman suggested, or, to me, a fairer/better way is a mileagwe quote ($3 to 4 per mile) plus fuel, harbour dues if necessary and crew travel to/from boat.

pm me for a quote! Best, Tony
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Old 27-10-2012, 11:57   #5
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Re: Ocean Delivery Cost

When everything is considered, travel expenses, food, wages, lost wages, wear and tear and fuel... delivery via a shipping company is about the same, if not cheaper.
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When everything is considered, travel expenses, food, wages, lost wages, wear and tear and fuel... delivery via a shipping company is about the same, if not cheaper.
It wasn't the last time I looked!! However, shipping costs have come down dramatically during the recession and shippers are actively touting for trade so you may well be right!! Tony
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Old 27-10-2012, 15:19   #7
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Re: Ocean Delivery Cost

The boatyard will recommend good delivery crew.

I would count 1 EUR/USD per mile for delivery in the good season plus return tickets. Remember there will be likely two crew. Double the figures.

Needless to say, the owner pays all dockage/fuel and all other boat related costs too.

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Re: Ocean Delivery Cost

When our Privilege 39 was new, we had it shipped by freighter. The boat sailed from France to England with a delivery crew before it was put on a ship in England. On the way to Britain, the crew managed to hit something and put a hole in the bow that required a repair on the starboard bow.

If I had to do it again, I would sail it myself as first choice. Second choice would be a freighter. Third choice would be a delivery crew, because I have not been impressed with some of the delivery crews that I have encountered over the years.

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Old 27-10-2012, 18:12   #9
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That's a real shame, Max. I have several stories of cargo ships not preparing the boat for 40-50kts of apparent wind. Also some real hidden costs in de commissioning and re commissioning. Re stepping the mast is a whole lot more involved than taking her down. Plus delivery crew to the pick up point abnd then to final destination.

Lots of capable and good Captains. Vetting is critical. Do the homework with references from owners of past deliveries!

I charge flat rates per nm. $2.50 US. You pay, food aboard, fuel, flights to boat and home, other misc travel expenses.

Have many reliable references and extensive sailing c/v from over 120,000nm international verified blue water miles. Not one insurance claim or injury to boot! Proud of that! Also non smoker as is my crew.

PM me or email me: earthakat at msn dot com.

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I am going to use Jeff next year. I will tell you what I think of him then . In the meantime though, I did not vett as well as I should, and I ended up cleaning 10 lbs of crap out of a head that was stopped up, and throwing away glasses that they used to smoke their weed in. Not only that, but they decided to live in my boat before and afterwards for a few days! I also have a roller furler that doesn't work right now. And the list goes on. If you want to know who to avoid, PM me. (Its not Jeffry)
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I am going to use Jeff next year. I will tell you what I think of him then . In the meantime though, I did not vett as well as I should, and I ended up cleaning 10 lbs of crap out of a head that was stopped up, and throwing away glasses that they used to smoke their weed in. Not only that, but they decided to live in my boat before and afterwards for a few days! I also have a roller furler that doesn't work right now. And the list goes on. If you want to know who to avoid, PM me. (Its not Jeffry)

I really wish you would contact any of my references! You should!! No kidding! All of them love to advise of the condtion of the vessel as it was delivered along with the professional approach tio the whole deal. Not a single owner has ever given me a poor score. I'm prudent and clean anmd proud of it. just sayin'...
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I am going to use Jeff next year. I will tell you what I think of him then . In the meantime though, I did not vett as well as I should, and I ended up cleaning 10 lbs of crap out of a head that was stopped up, and throwing away glasses that they used to smoke their weed in. Not only that, but they decided to live in my boat before and afterwards for a few days! I also have a roller furler that doesn't work right now. And the list goes on. If you want to know who to avoid, PM me. (Its not Jeffry)
Incredible! Craigslist... So sorry about that! I wanted to deliver your Valiant!
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Its just like my byline states: wisdom is bitter at first.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence!! Should check my references. At least Leo! He likes to advise.. really!
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Re: Ocean Delivery Cost

Hi Doshueb,

Congratulatyion on yr Helia. I did the transfer of Helia #1 from Istanbul to MArmaris, did last year my Atlantic trip (Marmaris-BVI-Marmaris) in one season with my Orana and are bringing every year couple of catamarans from La Rochelle to Marmaris.
Here are my sugggestions:

-if you have the experience to make the delivery yrself, do it. If you don't join the team as a first mate, seaman or whatever. That will be a life time experience and the best way to familiarise with yr new baby. If you cannot make the entire trip, at least join a part of tthe trip.
-find someone who has done it on board of a catamaran.
-rig the boat with a second genoa for sailing down wind with twin genoa or a spinneaker. That will not only shorten the travel time, hence, the cost but will also put less strain on the boat.
-if you have trouble in finding the right people, I can suggest you some names. Some of them are working free lance, some others are with a company.
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