Originally Posted by hellosailor
can you post some details on the paperwork side of things? Folks commonly ask questions about international flagging and entry problems.
Sure, good idea. Here goes...
If you want to leave the US for other countries, then you must have a national registration
(of some type). If you don't want to leave the US then you can have a state registration
, but, in some (most?) cases then there's tax to be paid.
I didn't really explore state reg because I most likely will take the boat to the Bahamas
and maybe further, so state reg wouldn't cut it.
So.. I need it to be nationally registered. I can't register with the USCG, because I don't have residency in the US. I could register a company in some funny
place in the Caribbean
, and then register the boat there, but that involves some $1000's per year, and lots of communication. Australian Reg does not mean that you have to pay Australian tax, and its a one off payment of around USD$600.
The process is straight forward - hire an Agent! You may be able to DIY, but its another thing that I didn't really need to learn about. The process is you apply to the USCG to de-register the boat, and you get an abstract of the boat's history
and a de-registration certificate. This information, along with the Bill of Sale
goes to the Australian Ship Registration Office and they give you a registration document, and 'marking instructions'. I haven't done this bit, but I believe you then stick the name on the boat (stern and both bows, 4" high) and affix a lump of wood with the number routered into it. Then you get a Notarised affidavit saying this is done, and that's it!
I think most of the process would be the same for other nationalities, but your mileage would vary on the tax and the exact documentation
Once the boat is de-reged then its a foreign boat and so it needs two things. You need a form from the state tax department stating that you are leaving in a certain number of days, and you aren't a state resident (that's Florida
, and maybe others). You get 90 days in Florida
. The second thing is from Customs
- a cruising permit. That lasts for a year. I don't know what happens after that, probably something inconvienient. As far as I can tell the stuff about reporting in as you move around in the US is not true, but I'll post to that other thread when I've spoken to the customs
guys in Florida.
When selling the boat again in the US, if that's what happens, then you can leave the boat in Florida indefinitely as long as its for sale
with a broker. Other states may have the same thing. The only time it can be sailed is during a sea test, or to move it to make repairs
That's about the sum total of my knowledge on this subject.