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Old 13-11-2011, 03:00   #31
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True, but most of the time ignorance is just ignorance and I prefer to be informed. I'm surprised more people haven't posted their costs in the thread.
Yeh well, some of us have wives that lurk on here occasionally.
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Old 13-11-2011, 03:36   #32
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I'm surprised more people haven't posted their costs in the thread.
I thought this thread was about your boating costs.

Anyway:-

Mooring - £80 pa

Insurance - Nil

Haul out - Nil (Tide goes out twice a day)

Antifouling - Nil (this year just had a powerwash and a scrub - by my 78yo father )

Refurb - this year probably be a couple of K.......excluding my time.

Be nice to drop the Refurb costs next year but probably be replaced by a "shiney toys" budget (I have a list ).
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Old 13-11-2011, 06:35   #33
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Insurance: $105 pa

Everything else, don't know... ignorance is bliss for marital harmony!!!

I need the name of your insurance company Kate

£600 per year insurance in a marina (maybe the Toxteth post code has something to do with this)

£3,000 per year mooring fee

£400 to lift out and put back in the water, I'll do the anti fouling, paint 20 litres of AF for a couple pints of Guiness, courtesy of the ship yard on the other side of the river

Spent £350 on a new spray hood and getting the stack pack re-stitched

Probably close to £200 in diesel

£500 on other bits and bobs, but the GF is keeping a close eye on what is spent (accountants)

Next year is a set of davits and a solar system to install, plus a new work top for the galley. That hopefully is the end of the project list
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Old 13-11-2011, 08:24   #34
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I don't expect much if any added costs for the year. So for those that wonder what it costs:

Other than boat payments; using my 2001 Hunter 410 (really a 43.5' foot boat and I get charged for than length on haul out)

$1,549 operation and general (fuel, insurance, mooring permit, etc)
$ 848 maintenance and repairs
$4,818 storage and marina (winter dry store and moorings during season)
$5320 upgrades

$12,535 total

In comparison not counting payments I think it costs around $6000 for my house between taxes and upkeep.

Great thread. I don't usually anaylze the costs for the boat in much detail but, off the top of my head here's what I've come up with:

Expenses mooring, insurance, bottom paint, maintenace, reg fees $3036.00
Gas 10 gallons $ 50.00
Cruise expenses docking, provisioning $ 800.00
Winter storage including unstepping mast $1700.00

TOTAL $5586.00

Still cheaper than my house expenses (similar to yours) but, the house is a 12 month residence and I only live aboard the boat for about six months of the year. I expect if I took the boat south (one of these years) it would be a wash with the winter storage fees that I pay now. So it's about $931 per month for the six month season. Though averaged out through the year it's $465. Hey under $500/month. Though mooring fees would increase From the $322 I pay for the season now to probably at least $400 per month (from what I've read here on the CF) if I went south at least for a few months and lived aboard all year.
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Old 13-11-2011, 10:06   #35
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Re: My 2011 Boating Costs

Berth: 1740€ /yr
Insurance: 635€ /yr
Tax: 88€ /yr
Fuel: 110€ for 40 sailing days
Bottom paint: 172€
One 15kg Spade anchor: 520€
Misc. (upkeep, upgrades, books, charts...) to reach 4200€ /yr

In France, it is no longer permitted to scrub/paint the bottom in an area where the effluents aren't recycled. But the marina has an agreement with the boatyard where I go. Then I save roughly 200€ on haul-out.

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Old 13-11-2011, 10:21   #36
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I was in Richmond for a few years, but moved further towards the delta last year. I did spent quite a bit of time in the delta this past summer too, so an inexpensive way to to keep the bottom clean. The hull does get a light coating of soft growth if it sits too long. But it wipes right off or comes off after just a short while sailing.

I do sail a lot and am on the hook / cruising quite a bit. OK all the time. Oh it's been 27 months since I repainted the bottom, the first 12 months in Richmond. Only had the hull cleaned once in the first 12 months and none since. There is no growth/beard on the waterline. Probably helps that there is 40 years of bottom paint on the hull...

I do agree that if a boat sits in a marina it will need cleaning every few months. Just that mine does not sit still that long

Sorry for the thread drift
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Old 13-11-2011, 10:25   #37
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Yeh well, some of us have wives that lurk on here occasionally.
Now THAT has been one of the funniest comments I read this morning!

(now where is that screen cleaner... )
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That's a really good idea
Dani keeps a running spreadsheet of our estimates and actual costs. It will of course vary wildly between people because of needs/conditions/wants/etc. However there are a lot of places out there that you can get hard numbers. Mostly I've found them in blogs. Its why we try to post quarterly updates on our costs. We've tracked EVERY DIME that has gone into the boat so far.


As a side note, it is great being engaged to a cost controls project engineer.
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Well this year was cheap, as the slip was included with the boat, but it should have been

Slip- 1400 April-Oct
Haulout/bottom wash and winter storage- 585
De stepping mast- 104
Fuel- 30
Upgrades ( eleictic-alcohol stove/cartplotter/AC power/Audio system/magna grill/galley stuff)- 1000 (I love you Ebay)
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I guess I'm pretty lucky total yearly costs US $6500
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Dani keeps a running spreadsheet of our estimates and actual costs. It will of course vary wildly between people because of needs/conditions/wants/etc. However there are a lot of places out there that you can get hard numbers. Mostly I've found them in blogs. Its why we try to post quarterly updates on our costs. We've tracked EVERY DIME that has gone into the boat so far.
As a side note, it is great being engaged to a cost controls project engineer.
On the other hand if I add up all the expenses I've made buying computers and peripherals for them that became obsolete over the years the expenses of the boat don't seem that bad. It still hurts to think about that Kyocera black and white laser printer I bought in the early 1990's for $3,500. But, hey it could print on envelopes! I have to say many of the things that were on board my boat when I bought it are still working and not obsolete which is more than I can say for the computers I bought. Well, there is that Kings 8001 Loran Unit:
THE BIANKA LOG BLOG: TO DO LIST: REMOVE LORAN
But, that would still be working too if the government had not shut down the transmitters.
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I'm not sure what I've spent this year, but I'm pretty sure I could get another boat for free if I turned in my West Marine points.
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