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Old 13-06-2011, 19:53   #1
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Modern Yet Cheap - Bluewater Worthy Yet Fast ?

Hey guys, I plan on doing a fairly long trip from British Columbia, down the Coast to Puerto Vallarta, and then out to Hawaii and back somewhere in the near future - Approx ~9000nm.

- I am looking for a ~40ft boat for around/under $65,000 CAN that can handle rough seas and winds, yet still be fairly comfortable, new/modern and fast!

- It must have a keel stepped mast - and no ketches, yawls, or schooners, only sloops or cutters.

-It must be comfortable enough for me and a handful (2-3) others to live aboard for ~6-7 months.

Now, I am a bit of a sucker for beneteau and hunter's, just due to their elegance, but I figure those are terribly poor ideas to do such a trip in.

Now, what would you recommend?
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Hey guys, I plan on doing a fairly long trip from British Columbia, down the Coast to Puerto Vallarta, and then out to Hawaii and back somewhere in the near future - Approx ~9000nm.

- I am looking for a ~40ft boat for around/under $65,000 CAN that can handle rough seas and winds, yet still be fairly comfortable, new/modern and fast!

- It must have a keel stepped mast - and no ketches, yawls, or schooners, only sloops or cutters.

-It must be comfortable enough for me and a handful (2-3) others to live aboard for ~6-7 months.

Now, I am a bit of a sucker for beneteau and hunter's, just due to their elegance, but I figure those are terribly poor ideas to do such a trip in.

Now, what would you recommend?
Either or both will do, depends on the Capitain and condition of the boat.
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Old 13-06-2011, 22:58   #3
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Re: Modern, yet cheap. Bluewater worthy, yet fast?

Have you checked out yachtworld.com?

I saw three there that might be of interest.
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Re: Modern, yet cheap. Bluewater worthy, yet fast?

Yes, Yachtworld is the place to search. You can adjust the search criteria just as you posed your question. You might consider boats already in Mexico...or along the way...avoiding the only rough seas of your stated itenerary.
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Now, I am a bit of a sucker for beneteau and hunter's, just due to their elegance, but I figure those are terribly poor ideas to do such a trip in.
An interesting way to make friends on your first post.

You make a good point: just because dozens of couples every year make the trip you've described in the elegant boats you've just slagged, doesn't mean that you'll be able to repeat the feat.

It's admirable that you can own up to shortcomings of this nature.
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An interesting way to make friends on your first post.

You make a good point: just because dozens of couples every year make the trip you've described in the elegant boats you've just slagged, doesn't mean that you'll be able to repeat the feat.

It's admirable that you can own up to shortcomings of this nature.
Bash, you're not a poker player are you?

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Sorry, don't find them elegant, all the modern designs look bloated to me.

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Sounds like an impossible ask. You either need to massively upgrade your budget, go for older and slower or get a benejeanhuntavaria.
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Re: Modern, yet cheap. Bluewater worthy, yet fast?

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It must have a keel stepped mast
Why ?

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It must be comfortable enough for me and a handful (2-3) others to live aboard for ~6-7 months.

Now, I am a bit of a sucker for beneteau and hunter's, just due to their elegance, but I figure those are terribly poor ideas to do such a trip in.

Now, what would you recommend?
Given the budget one of these:
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Re: Modern, yet cheap. Bluewater worthy, yet fast?

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...url=&imc=pg-fs
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...url=&imc=pg-fs
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...url=&imc=pg-fs
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I also noticed a couple of Coopers, a couple of Spencers & Ericsons, Islanders, Morgans, etc.

It all depends on where you want to buy, how offshore ready the boat you want should be, what you feel is a plus or minus in hull profile, interior layout, etc. . Do you want an elephant or a gazelle? The C&C, above, is along the same lines as the Hunters & Beneteaus, but... well, I won't go into it here.

Best of luck in your search!
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Re: Modern, yet cheap. Bluewater worthy, yet fast?

Sorry, missed the "new/modern" parameter...for $65k? I don't think that that's possible.
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Sorry, missed the "new/modern" parameter...for $65k? I don't think that that's possible.
Maybe he means each of them will put up $65K!
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Re: Modern, yet cheap. Bluewater worthy, yet fast?

I think you need to think smaller, if you want a new/modern on that budget, also are you going to do any work yourself? or you want to buy and go? I´d be wary of just picking any fast new/modern 65k yacht and just leaving, why not buy an old fast´ish 40footer and invest your time in making it modern??
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I think you need to think smaller, if you want a new/modern on that budget, also are you going to do any work yourself? or you want to buy and go? I´d be wary of just picking any fast new/modern 65k yacht and just leaving, why not buy an old fast´ish 40footer and invest your time in making it modern??
Sorry about the wording, it definitely wasn't the best thing i've ever posted on a forum. I will try and proof-read from now on

By 'modern' I meant not an outdated hull design; I am not even considering anything built in the last 25years as the price is way out of my league. I am pretty handy when it comes to fiberglass/wood/mechanical work, so I am planning on doing quite a bit of work myself after the purchase; not just a ready to sail deal.

I would like to have a keel stepped mast, because I have heard of local horror stories of deck stepped masts being ripped off of boats in storm force winds - this could be BS, but it seems the consensus around the harbours up here is preferably keel stepped. However, I could be totally wrong on this!

And thanks for the links bangkaboat! I will spend some time on yachtworld playing around with the advanced search
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My boat is for sale definitely capable just done 6000nm past 5 months...older tough design,yet very modernised,fairly quick and not too far off your budget! www.moody39.com and see ad under classifieds on this site.
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