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Old 09-06-2008, 19:07   #1
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Is this any kind of deal??

2007 Multihaven Catamaran Caribbean REDUCED Boat For Sale=



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Old 09-06-2008, 19:34   #2
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Look at the water line stains on the last photo. Seems like perhaps they were a little off on the weight and balance?

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It's got a lot of strikes against it:

- it looks like it was designed by somebody who was not a naval architect. I suspect this company did it themselves and they are not a
- Lots of weird stuff like the dining room table with funny shape that is intended to look stylish but can only fit 4 plates.
- chart table that gives more space for TV but has only tiny lid that you couldn't fit a chart through
- forestay fitting that is just plain odd
- outboard motors on a 39' cat that weighs 21,000 lbs is not very good. O/B work ok on light cats but this one is not
- transom steps that obviously somebody thought was a good idea but will produce a lot of extra drag with the wrap around style
- twin bow rollers outboard but anchor is on centerline
- low bridgedeck clearance
- no forward lifeline
- no seagull striker is unusual
- solar panel bolted directly to hardtop or deck with no air space underneath
- Multihaven says they use polypro honeycomb core, which isn't the best stuff for hulls

In short, this doesn't look like it is the work of good boat builders. Googling Multihaven doesn't inspire me (bottom of one page) "A sales delivery co-ordination company..."

This really doesn't inspire confidence
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Old 09-06-2008, 20:23   #4
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Look at the water line stains on the last photo. Seems like perhaps they were a little off on the weight and balance?

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Oh yea.

Plus the photos are of two different boats. One has blue the other teal (?).
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You guys are harsh in an amazing way. It is impressive the knowledge base and what you guys can notice. Next time I buy a boat I am asking here fiirst. It might be llike asking your friends about the girl you are starting to date. They may tell you she is a tramp but better to learn it now than later...
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When you dump your next tramp, please send me her number ;-)

Actually, Evan pointed out some really important stuff.

I'd further point out the fuel and water tankage.

I wouldn't rulle it out, off hand, but IMHO this is a weekender not a passage maker...
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Thanks Therapy, I now know that there are not only dreamboats, there are 'nightmare boats'. In addition to all of the valid points made above, I noted the following:

1. Not only is she sitting down at the stern, she has a definite list to port in the photo where she is tied up to the dock.
2. The advertised bridgedeck clearance figure is a joke - from the same photo, it appears to be about 12 inches (or less) aft.
3. Not only are the anchor rollers mounted offline from the anchor storage (and windlass?), they are mounted below the height of the deck. They would serve absolutely no purpose.
4. Its not just the interior table that is 'interesting' and impractical in design, the s-shaped settee that fronts it looks like something from a 'house of mirrors'.
5. The lack of a seagull, or dolphin striker is not necessarily a problem with a solid foredeck, but I would certainly want lifelines forward (and an inspection of the strength of the deck at the forward chainplate - ie, is there a structural crossbeam?).
6. The aft surround steps are not only unusual (and in my eyes hideous), they are also virtually useless to the extent that there is insufficient pitch or slope to actually use them as steps.

And if all of these patent defects are obvious from a cursory inspection of photos, just imagine all of the latent defects! What is more, considering the pedigree (no naval architect listed and numerous obviously unsound design and construction features), I wouldn't even consider her suitable for near-shore cruising. As an ugly and impractical houseboat to leave tied up to a dock - well, maybe.

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As an ugly and impractical houseboat to leave tied up to a dock - well, maybe.

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I am a pesimist.
I wanted to have others ideas.
I like the houseboat idea but even at that there must be better "real" houseboats.
I suppose I will pass and continue to wait till the perfect Gemini falls into my lap.
Unless of course that free catamaran comes along as I am first on the list.
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