Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 02-09-2013, 19:12   #31
Senior Cruiser
 
unbusted67's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Islesboro, ME
Boat: Looking for a new boat
Posts: 2,196
Images: 24
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Phil View Post
you got that right, unbusted!... Working the water in winter north of 52 degrees builds character I was told... too stupid to question that at the time. Phil
Haha I built all this character and it taught me that I didn't want to get woken up at 3am to transport prisoners and sick people in a 34 foot boat to the mainland in a blizzard! Duh.

I was so stupid before when I thought that I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life!
__________________

__________________
__________________________________________
Unbusted67 or just Ben
unbusted67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 19:15   #32
Registered User
 
Stu Jackson's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 6,387
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

Wow, this finally proves that there ISN'T a website for EVERYTHING. What a relief.
__________________

__________________
Stu Jackson
Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, (Maple Bay Marina) SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
Stu Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 05:19   #33
Wayfaring Mariner
 
captain58sailin's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
Posts: 4,045
Images: 5
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

If you want to work in the PNW you could use Vancouver, Canada as a transship point, and eliminate the need for a US built boat. You can go from one non US port to a US port carrying cargo on a non US built boat. The sticking point is going from one US port to another US port, then you have to use a US laid keel. There are ways around the laws, watch what the cruise ships are doing and emulate them. The only web site I know of is Smugglers are us .com and they work like Uship.com.
__________________
" Wisdom; is your reward for surviving your mistakes"
captain58sailin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 09:40   #34
Registered User
 
Capt Phil's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Stateline NV
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
Posts: 2,749
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

I believe there have been some changes to the Jones Act but can't recall what they are or the impact on non-US vessels carrying cargo between US ports. Perhaps someone in the business or a grad from CMA could enlighten us. Phil
__________________
Capt Phil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 09:57   #35
Registered User
 
deckofficer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern and Southern California
Boat: too many
Posts: 4,198
Images: 4
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

It is called Break Bulk in this era of containers. When I started I wanted to go to the out of the way places that couldn't handle a containership, like Easter Island. At the tonnage rates back then, your cargo would sink your pleasure boat long before it was profitable. Plus you must maintain a schedule as on Easter Island and other ports, your arrival is deemed a holiday so that the islanders can scoot down on pier with their ATVs pulling trailers for their provisions.
__________________
Bob
USCG Unlimited Tonnage Open Ocean (CMA)
http://tbuckets.lefora.com/
deckofficer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 09:58   #36
Wayfaring Mariner
 
captain58sailin's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
Posts: 4,045
Images: 5
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

I recently had a sit down with my local USCG inspector, and it was regarding shipping, between US ports with a foreign flagged vessel, under 300 tons, and he was of the opinion that it had to be a US flagged vessel, and he was instrumental in writing many of the regs, applied in Alaska, he seems very sharp, so I take him at his word. I will continue to investigate when I get home.
__________________
" Wisdom; is your reward for surviving your mistakes"
captain58sailin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 09:59   #37
Registered User
 
deckofficer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern and Southern California
Boat: too many
Posts: 4,198
Images: 4
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

To the best of my knowledge, the Jones Act is still intact. If you ship between two US ports, you must be flagged US, that is why Matson is because of their West Coast to Hawaii container routes.
__________________
Bob
USCG Unlimited Tonnage Open Ocean (CMA)
http://tbuckets.lefora.com/
deckofficer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 10:16   #38
Wayfaring Mariner
 
captain58sailin's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
Posts: 4,045
Images: 5
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

You can get a waiver, like the Chinese ship that brought in the jack up rig to Alaska, from the east coast. I made some noise about that to my congress person, before the fact and was completely ignored. There are some exceptions, I have seen some foreign flagged vessels showing up in LA, working the oilfield. I don't know how they did that.
__________________
" Wisdom; is your reward for surviving your mistakes"
captain58sailin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 10:22   #39
Registered User
 
deckofficer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern and Southern California
Boat: too many
Posts: 4,198
Images: 4
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

Quote:
Originally Posted by captain58sailin View Post
You can get a waiver, like the Chinese ship that brought in the jack up rig to Alaska, from the east coast. I made some noise about that to my congress person, before the fact and was completely ignored. There are some exceptions, I have seen some foreign flagged vessels showing up in LA, working the oilfield. I don't know how they did that.
Could it be favoritism our government has always given the domestic oil industry?
__________________
Bob
USCG Unlimited Tonnage Open Ocean (CMA)
http://tbuckets.lefora.com/
deckofficer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2013, 10:43   #40
Wayfaring Mariner
 
captain58sailin's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
Posts: 4,045
Images: 5
Re: Getting Paid to Transport Things

Hmmmmm could be? I have a line on a beautiful little Danish wood hulled freighter, but can't touch it due to the flagging issues.
__________________

__________________
" Wisdom; is your reward for surviving your mistakes"
captain58sailin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
paracelle

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:22.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.