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30-05-2012, 15:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefmagnet
I've seen combination gas and electric stoves. I think they are more for RV's but would probably adapt to a boat.
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I saw some alcohol hybrids on line but not LPG. I'll keep looking!
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30-05-2012, 15:33
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Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Electric stoves
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Originally Posted by Reefmagnet
I've seen combination gas and electric stoves. I think they are more for RV's but would probably adapt to a boat.
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I saw that setup on a Bayliner I helped deliver from Seattle to Vancouver.
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30-05-2012, 16:02
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern and Southern California
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Re: Electric stoves
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
An electric induction cooktop doesn't use all that much power. A lot depends on what kind of cooking you do -- is the stove going for hours every day? What does it do to your power budget?
It would be a good solution on our boat -- large-scale cooking on the stove doesn't usually happen to much of any extent except once a day, and this can correspond with a generator run which we need to do anyway. Heating up the odd pot or frying the odd egg would hardly be noticed by our battery bank.
Gas on a boat is a PITA, and LPG (butane, propane) is dangerous. I like the idea of electric cooking, but you have to be sure you have room in your power budget. If you don't have a genset and/or you run the stove for hours a day, it might not work.
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You know Zeehag, I always like to agree with you, but on this I'm going with Dockhead. Induction is great, very efficient, only heats the pot or skillet and since the cooking surface doesn't get hot, for us lazy folks, clean up is a single wipe. My next boat I plan on a fully electric galley, induction cook top and even a 1500 watt BBQ on the rail. No more propane for me. I also should mention 1 kw worth of solar and battery storage in the 20Kw/hr range and a 48 volt inverter with an output of 4800 watts cont., 9600 watts surge. This is just me, and may not be for others.
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30-05-2012, 16:11
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Re: Electric stoves
I think it would be possible to have a big enough solar panel system and have the batteries required, and if it was designed and sized correctly you should be fine. I don't cook very often, but I would like to come up with a concentrated solar thermal system to bring water to a boil. As well as make hot water for a shower.
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30-05-2012, 16:19
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Re: Electric stoves
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Originally Posted by SunDevil
As well as make hot water for a shower.
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This is all you need for a shower.
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30-05-2012, 16:22
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Re: Electric stoves
Yep. Many boats today use electric stoves. I believe a genset delivers the juice then. Very nice solution indeed.
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30-05-2012, 16:30
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Re: Electric stoves
But do you want to be dependent on your genset for your stove to work?
I know I would be crippled without my morning coffee.
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30-05-2012, 16:39
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Re: Electric stoves
We have been cruising the Bight of SoCal for 2 years now on a single energy source, all-electric, high-function 37' sailboat.
By high-function I mean we have all the amenities of shore comforts such as central heating and air conditioning, refrigeration, and entertainment electronics in addtion to all the regular navigation, computing, communication, pumps, and lighting needs found on a cruising vessel.
The single fuel source is the same one the propulsion engine uses - diesel. All electrical power is from two alternators mounted to the engine, and matched to high acceptance rate batteries.
The daily power budget is met in the running time it takes the engine to create the vessel's hot water for a 24 hour period.
No genset, no solar, no wind generators, no propane, no gasoline, and no stern arch.
The all-electric galley features a 3 burner stove, an oven, a convection oven, a grill, and a microwave - all in one compact fully gimbaled unit. Other electrical appliances include an electric kettle, electric bread maker, a blender, in addition to an electric outboard.
Makes for a safer, lighter, quieter, greener, roomier, less complex, lower drag, less tender, more attractive, and much easier to maintain vessel.
Our system makes the most sense for an owner that wants a high function boat and is willing to spend approximately 10 - 20% of the purchase price of the boat to greatly simplify cruising.
Cheers,
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30-05-2012, 16:44
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Re: Electric stoves
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Originally Posted by David M
But do you want to be dependent on your genset for your stove to work?
I know I would be crippled without my morning coffee.
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David, from your posts I've always rated you as one of the smartest guys here on CF. You wouldn't trust your inverter to brew you some coffee?
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30-05-2012, 18:01
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Re: Electric stoves
Quote:
Originally Posted by David M
But do you want to be dependent on your genset for your stove to work?
I know I would be crippled without my morning coffee.
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I think most boats have alternators too and the batteries. Bigger boats, bigger alts and electric stoves. Why not.
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30-05-2012, 18:36
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Re: Electric stoves
Out of the last 26 posts, 2 had and used electric and if I read correctly 1 for and 1 against the idea. I have used a Princess 3 burner range for the last 10+ years with good results.
I will say with a electric start gen it wasn't a big deal really. We never used the oven and only stored the pans in it. When we wanted coffee we just used the inverter unless we were making a breakfast that needed cooking. The pros very low heat to the cabin almost none, no wet feeling from propane flame, and as easy as a turn of a switch to start the gen. The cons the entire system needed to be sized correctly, proper wiring, breakers, ect. A side note, it is really much better for the gen to run almost every day. That doesn't mean for hours on end, just to operating temp to remove moisture from the internals of the engine. We usually charged batteries while we cooked as the gen was sized to be able to do both at the same time. Make sure the system is safe either with gas or electric as both can make for a very bad day.
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30-05-2012, 20:55
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Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Electric stoves
Yes I have used electric stoves - on power boats with gensets. They did not need to be gimballed.
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30-05-2012, 20:58
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#29
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Location: San Diego, CA
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Re: Electric stoves
We are a sailboat & I like my present gimballed stove!
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30-05-2012, 21:06
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Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Electric stoves
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Originally Posted by buxomwench8
We are a sailboat & I like my present gimballed stove!
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I am not sure an electric stove can be gimballed. Can you use fiddles / pot holders on an electric stove. On the power boats these were not present and not needed. Underway on a sailboat they are essential.
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