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Old 25-09-2009, 10:03   #16
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My costing on bringing a yacht to Australia (even on it's own bottom) was that it was so expensive as to be impractical.

My suggestion: Buy the yacht in the Med, use it for as long as, even sail it to the Caribbean for as long as, then sell it for what you can get.

When you come to Australia you will likely have no time or even use for a large cruising boat, so saving the (getting towards) $150k the exercise would cost you will buy another boat when you want one.
When I compare the prices of the boats I really want, 2000+ Jeanneteau then numbers seem to at least break even. So it is not really worth it if I just wanted to buy and import, but if I use it for a year or two then it will be better to take it with me and I will surely fit it out with nice stuff I want.

Older boats are another matter on a pure price matter. Whilst there seems to be a good selection of newer Jeanneteau in Oz, the selection of older boats seems to be quite poor. Then I have to resort to boats like the Farr 1104, 11.6 & 1020, but they looks so uncivilised compared to the Euro boats of the same age.

But I will cross that bridge when I get to it. I have at least 8 months to wait before I am ready to buy in Europe first
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Don't know if they go there but from FtLauderdale to Southampton UK was 10k EU. And THEY do all the work. All you gotta do is show up (with proper paperwork of course). NOT containerized. Motor up and they haul you out.

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Old 25-09-2009, 11:38   #18
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Thanks Fishman_tx

I see they use sevenstar.nl who delivers to most place, so both are now bookmarked
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Old 26-09-2009, 21:23   #20
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Did I miss something, was that 150k for the delivery, hell I'll do it for half that and laugh all the way home.
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Old 27-09-2009, 00:26   #21
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Not just delivery...

The point that I was trying to make was that bringing a yacht from the Caribbean to Australia is going to be expensive.

Some guesstimated costs:-
Actual Delivery - $40-80k.
Oz Customs, tax, etc. - $20-40k.
Accommodation and related travel costs - $10-20k.
And there will be a few I haven't thought of.
Not to mention all the headaches involved.

So our starter costs are $70-140k.
All this for a $100k boat (After 2 years hard sailing it will depreciate!) just so it can sit unused on a mooring in Oz.

If the boat was to sell for $80k (another guesstimate) we're looking at (maybe) $150+k in pocket. Enough to buy another boat in the future.
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Sounds very expensive to me. There must be a cheaper way. Sail the boat and use it. Houses cars and boats needs to be used to work well. Or hire a skipper./ Harry
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Boracay, your logic makes sense if you want to cruise with, lets say a 40 footer but you are happy with a 30 footer sitting on a mooring at home for weekend use.

But if the boat you want sitting at home is the same boat you want to cruise, then the same $100K boat in the Carib will probably cost you over $200k in Aus. Then it is just a matter of where the land in Aus costs end up in the $70-140k estimate.

At the moment for me it looks like I will have to budget at least $200K for the boat I want to have sitting on a mooring in Melbourne, whether I buy over here and ship it or if I buy when I eventually get home. The $200k feels less painful if I will extensively use it over here first

I must be a bit sentimental as I bought a new touring Ducati motorcycle in Aus and then 6 months later found myself moving to Europe, so I shipped it over and toured it extensively including taking it back to the factory in Bologna. Eventually I sold it and bought a new Ducati. I toured it extensively and did plan to ship it to Aus, but I stopped riding and sold it. I guess my desire is to replace the bike with the yacht as a sentimental take home to Aus toy (yes I am all f..ked up )
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Breakbulk shipping is difficult and depends on if the carrier has room.
cost Brisbane to Hong Kong for 65' steel hull is USD30K. China Shipping would take it.
You might have to talk to specialist freight broker rather than the shipping lines direct - clerks at the front desk cant fart without higher authority.
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- - Hey, guys there is something strange here in all those numbers. Boat manufacturers ship their new boats all over the world from factories in the USA and in Europe and they obviously are nnot spending that kind of money getting their product to market. It would double or triple the price of the boat which means "no market". So find out how the manufacturers are doing it and copy them . . .
- - I meet 2 or 3 Aussie cruisers each year in the Caribbean who have purchased a boat in the USA and are sailing it back to Australia. On the fast track it takes 9 months and leisurely they take a year to year and a half or more and see the Caribbean and all the islands in the Coconut Run to Australia.
- - Did you investigate Peter and Mays Ltd http://www.petersandmay.com/
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osirissail. The boat manufacturers probably get better pricing due to volumes.

If new imported boats are anything like cars in Aus, then the sellers go for higher profit margins and lower sales volumes. They are safe doing that as the isolation/customs makes it difficult for private importers to under cut them on price which also helps maintain the high used prices.
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[QUOTE=hoppy;337221]Older boats are another matter on a pure price matter. Whilst there seems to be a good selection of newer Jeanneteau in Oz, the selection of older boats seems to be quite poor. Then I have to resort to boats like the Farr 1104, 11.6 & 1020, but they looks so uncivilised compared to the Euro boats of the same age.

Reading this thread has been great as we had been toying with the idea of shipping a cat across to NZ from the Carribbean after we sell our "uncivilised looking" Farr 1104. It's ok Hoppy, we can take it. We were kind of hoping to save a bit of time as taking 6 odd months out for delivery is not going to go down too well with the business partners. We now realize that shipping is NOT an option thanks to you guys. Guess we'll just have to "live the dream" after all.

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[QUOTE=Kiwikat;341846Reading this thread has been great as we had been toying with the idea of shipping a cat across to NZ from the Carribbean after we sell our "uncivilised looking" Farr 1104. It's ok Hoppy, we can take it. We were kind of hoping to save a bit of time as taking 6 odd months out for delivery is not going to go down too well with the business partners. We now realize that shipping is NOT an option thanks to you guys. Guess we'll just have to "live the dream" after all.

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If 6 months is too long to take off (and it shouldnt take quite that long!) Why not split the difference? 15k US as a figure off the top of my head will get the boat a long way towards you including the potential wait at the Canal. It may make flight costs cheaper as well. Tony
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Just a data point relative to new boat delivery cost and method:
In 2003, we paid $50K USD to have our 43' catamaran shipped from France to Vancouver, BC. It was strapped to the hold cover on a freighter. The arrangements were made by a third party shipping agent, not the manaufacturer.
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Thanks Tony, the 6 months was sort of a guestimate of total time involved in settlement and any maintenance to get the boat ready (and ourselves) for the crossing etc. The actual journey itself could likely be compressed into around 3 months but would just take a bit of the fun out of it by rushing it too much. Having said that, you are right in that there could be a compromise somewhere like having it delivered on it's own bum to somewhere in the Pacific and picking it up from there. Cheers. Lisa
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