I've been enjoying the forum for few years quietly from the sidelines. I had really hoped my first post would be more of the "WooHoo...my new boat!" variety, but I'll get there eventually. Today, I'm seeking advice/encouragement on purchasing
For my family's intents (and spouse's druthers) I've narrowed my search to current
millenium model production boats...(Jeanneau 45, B473, B49, etc). I've been 'internet looking' at these boats for a while and feel I have a sense of what what they are selling for. I use NADA, BUC, Yachtworld listings, owners groups, and PMs to new owners to paint
the broad price
picture. I've seen it written many times on this site...the boat is worth what the buyer and seller agree to, but I think I understand the realistic market window for the models I'm looking at.
I've never bought a boat before. I've read some great posts here on the process. I want to at least appear as if I know what I'm doing to the seller or his representative. I've talked to 3 folks so far about purchasing
(1 Broker, 2 Owners) and haven't gotten returned calls/feedback...not sure where (or if) I'm going wrong.
---I put some feelers out on different owners forums
and got a few responses from folks who were considering selling but hadn't listed their boats. I wrote back but that was the last I heard. I write these off as folks who don't really want to sell, but were looking for Donald Trump to stumble along. The discussions never progressed to dollar figures..."Hi, I'm looking for a boat with A, B, an C"..."I have a boat with that, how much are you willing to spend?"..."How else is your boat optioned/outfitted...can you tell me more?"...crickets.
---I spoke with a broker on a YW listing via phone
...I thought the phone
call went well (we never really spoke $) and I asked for more info/photos. Nothing.
Seems like a strange, weird process to me. If this was a house, in my experience, the realtor or owner would be more engaging.
1) If you were a boat owner/seller/broker, what do you want to hear on a phonecall to know that someone is serious vs dreamer/tire-kicker? I've stated that I am a cash buyer. I felt like I asked intelligent questions
I stated that I'm ready to buy now. Do I need to show money
in order to get more photos?
Is there some secret handshake that I need to know (PM me please
2) Although the market for these production boats is larger than many models, they are still few enough between that it entails travel to see them...like many folks, I'm busy and this is costly to me...especially given the 'flakiness' I've observed in my personal experience and what I've read here from others. I've seen other posts about offers being given before seeing a boat contingent on viewing
/survey/sea trial...too off-putting? abnormal for brokers, or is this acceptable? I would consider this method because I'd like to see that 1) the seller is really interested in selling, 2) we are on the same sheet before committing to travel. Some folks may be better at ad-writing than others, but I think generally you can pick up on the nuance between a worn out boat vs a well-maintained boat with the seller language used coupled with hi resolution amateur photos. I bought a house sight unseen once...good experience. Car once...not great experience. You pay your money
, you roll the dice, sometimes you win...sometimes you could've won better.
Do brokers work better with other brokers? I'm pretty sure I don't need a broker...but at times think it would likely grease the skids. I'm not 100% sure how this industry works in this regard.
Would anyone be willing to work out a soldboat data deal with me?
Does anyone know of a 3 stateroom, shoal draft
, mid 40'+, more cruise
ready than not, well maintained, late model boat? $200K plus/minus...
Guess that was more of a frustration vent that anything else type of post...thanks for the forum!