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19-01-2009, 10:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kenosha, WI
Boat: Cal 34 "Windemere"
Posts: 39
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Am I Poor or Is Everyone Else Filthy Rich
I was looking at a 35ft sailboat in Marina Del Rey, CA on Yachtworld and one of the comments was that the slip was transferable to the new owners at $575 mo. Thats $6900 a year. And I'm moaning about my $2400 a year slip and winter storage fees for just having a place to float fiberglass in water.
Having lived in Southern Cal for most of my life I know that this is far from the most expensive. Dana Point and anywhere in San Diego is more.
And of course gas in L.A. is a doller more per gallon than here in the midwest but hey, thats not price gouging.
Maybe I should downgrade my dreams and face reality. Owning a boat is expensive. I know......"Supply and demand" and "If you build it they will come".
I should try and find a Rowboat Forum to join. They cany cost more than $75.
Just venting,
Ray
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19-01-2009, 10:51
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Maine
Boat: Defever 41 "Bear Holiday"
Posts: 158
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Sell house, sell the car, move on board and live on the anchor. You don't need no stinking slip.
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19-01-2009, 10:55
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lunenburg, Nova Scotia
Boat: O'day 30 "Waverider III"
Posts: 205
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Well thank god I live close to an afordable Yacht Club. I pay less then 300 a year for my Yacht Club membership and I dont pay for storage as I own my mooring. It cost me less then 200 dollars to drop 600 feet off the Yacht Club tender dock.
In fact if I wanted a finger dock it would be an extra 500.00 a year, not bad for a Yacht Club. With the economy the way it is I think you will find alot more Marinas and Clubs keeping with current fee's or even lowering them as Supply and Demand change.
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19-01-2009, 10:56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Piscataway, NJ
Boat: 34 Sabre Tempest
Posts: 960
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Hey Ray,
If it's any consolation to you...at least you can use the boat year round !
I pay the almost same thing here in the Northeast and lose 4 or 5 months a year waiting for spring...
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Tempest
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19-01-2009, 21:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
Boat: Pearson 365 Sloop and 9' Fatty Knees.
Posts: 10,466
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Yes...sad but true. The excuse I get is "it's what the market will bare". What I don't like is in Ca., they tax you for the dirt under the slip. Unbelievable!
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19-01-2009, 21:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Boat: 1989 Carver Santego 3067 - BADFISH
Posts: 220
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That's SoCal brother... Lifestyles of the rich and famous. Move north, or to the gulf or the east coast.
Cheers
Bill
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19-01-2009, 22:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,076
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How the hell can they charge for the dirt under your slip?? How does that work!?! Talk about blatant white collar crime/mob mentality!! Yikes
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19-01-2009, 22:32
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Montrose, Colorado
Posts: 9,845
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BadFish
That's SoCal brother... Lifestyles of the rich and famous. Move north, or to the gulf or the east coast.
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It isn't just Southern California, but all of California. The state is $42billion in the red! The day is fast approaching when the intense efforts to close the budget gap will lead to the most creative means of revenue collection you can imagine.
Sadly, for those smug persons who live somewhere with "only" a deficit of a billion or two, you'd best not get too cocky. We're all going to pay for this - it just isn't readily apparent how yet.
TaoJones
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19-01-2009, 23:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
Boat: Pearson 365 Sloop and 9' Fatty Knees.
Posts: 10,466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow
How the hell can they charge for the dirt under your slip?? How does that work!?! Talk about blatant white collar crime/mob mentality!! Yikes
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That's right...Taxed on the land under your boat, taxed on the accessed value of your boat, fuel tax, sales tax. I'm surprised they repealed the luxury tax. But then...we own boats...we're rich.
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19-01-2009, 23:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
Boat: Pearson 365 Sloop and 9' Fatty Knees.
Posts: 10,466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones
It isn't just Southern California, but all of California. The state is $42billion in the red! The day is fast approaching when the intense efforts to close the budget gap will lead to the most creative means of revenue collection you can imagine.
Sadly, for those smug persons who live somewhere with "only" a deficit of a billion or two, you'd best not get too cocky. We're all going to pay for this - it just isn't readily apparent how yet.
TaoJones
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I agree...It's almost like you can hear the wick on the bomb hissing!!!
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"
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20-01-2009, 00:23
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ohio
Boat: Now boatless :-(
Posts: 11,580
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones
It isn't just Southern California, but all of California. The state is $42billion in the red! The day is fast approaching when the intense efforts to close the budget gap will lead to the most creative means of revenue collection you can imagine.
Sadly, for those smug persons who live somewhere with "only" a deficit of a billion or two, you'd best not get too cocky. We're all going to pay for this - it just isn't readily apparent how yet.
TaoJones
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There is a reason my screen name is "Ex" - Calif!
It is amazing that it never occurs to the smart folks to cut spending.
TJ - You would know better than I how smokin' the california economy should have been over the last 5 years. It should be the richest state in the union.
To many Hummers for the Governator.
To keep this on topic - I pay US$90 a month for my swing mooring ;-)
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20-01-2009, 02:10
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: South Pacific
Boat: Islander 36
Posts: 1,590
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Some weeks ago they were beating up the subject of the California economy on the cruisers net in La Paz. Blame seemed to land on pumping money into the support of the illegal aliens. While I am not crazy that expense, I have to say, the idea seems a little short on memory.
Don't ask me what the numbers are, but during the first go-round with the fires the word was that they would bankrupt the state.
Having said that, I have my boat in La Paz for a reason... or 3.
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20-01-2009, 10:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Where ever my boat is.
Boat: Allied Princess 36'
Posts: 323
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Check your local laws about putting in your own mooring. Sometimes it's possible and the cheapest way to go. Read them carefully and look for any loopholes!
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20-01-2009, 11:16
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Diego
Boat: Passport 47 CC
Posts: 467
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ex-Calif
To keep this on topic - I pay US$90 a month for my swing mooring ;-)
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Where are the damn Mods when you need them???? I want to report an inflammatory statement!!
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20-01-2009, 11:20
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
Posts: 10,406
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I don't mind paying for dirt...but the stuff under my boat is stinkin' anaerobic mud.
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