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20-01-2010, 01:20
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Boat: Jaguar 22 mono called Arfur.
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Forget the 2yr build schedule. You're not building a boat for a race, with unlimited budget and a deadline. You are doing the job properly and economically.
I didn't see the staysail, and the mast is a too far forward. But I'm biased.
I hope there are no trampolines, and I do like the line of the bows, I hate the french vertical stems, wave grabbers, but yours look right, and, being taller, will stop green water sluicing over the decks and sun bathers.
Any ideas on polars? You must have sketched some hopes.
Battery power, to my mind, is great for a half hour to get out of the mooring and the sails raised. But useless for motoring. Are the genny's suited for full power to drives, with nominal surplus for domestics? The weight of batteries is damaging to performance too.
A lovely boat, one that shows when the engineering is right the beauty becomes natural.
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Ex Prout 31 Sailor, Now it's a 22ft Jaguar called 'Arfur' here in sunny Southampton, UK.
A few places left in Quayside Marina and Kemps Marina.
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20-01-2010, 01:37
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Hallo Eleven polars are in the making but in general as fast as the wind , we use Lithium battery power good for 2 hours full speed or 4 hours at 7 knots and 2 gen sets that can power the motors at 100 % for as long as the tanks have fuel,
total battery weight is 720 kilo for 64 KW usable power, yes we use Dyneema trampolines to keep the boat as light as possible , this is not a racer but a performance oriented cruiser
A Prout cat always has the mast further back and there are advantages and disadvantages.
Greetings
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20-01-2010, 02:46
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Boat: Jaguar 22 mono called Arfur.
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Ron Underwood, MD of the old Prout, and involved in the now defunct BroadBlue, knew both mast positions well. BB added a forward mast option, the sport rig. No performance difference but more acceptable to mono men. Like rear engined cars I suppose, not hugely different but each has it's advantages. One of them naturally carries a Staysail which is an excellent storm sail location.
BroadBlue has been resurrected and is manufacturing again. UK based, Polish build.
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Ex Prout 31 Sailor, Now it's a 22ft Jaguar called 'Arfur' here in sunny Southampton, UK.
A few places left in Quayside Marina and Kemps Marina.
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20-01-2010, 03:13
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Fair enough. So how many orders for the 605 do you have?
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20-01-2010, 08:43
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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I do not see why you need this information so I will leave it at that but we are building molds so are gearing up to build more than a few of these cats.
Greetings
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20-01-2010, 09:37
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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I don't need the information, but merely wondered how many people, particularly in the current economic climate, were purchasing an expensive, untried catamaran with a two year lead time? Presumably from your answer, not many, or none.
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20-01-2010, 09:54
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Surprisingly enough there is a lot of demand for this type of cat and we have got orders to build. the same for our 445 we are actually slowly going up in production, the last 6 months have been very good to us getting lots of attention because of the Green Motion system and a lot of internet inquiries have followed.
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21-01-2010, 12:41
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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regarding polars Eleven here is the first one attached . greetings
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26-02-2010, 21:33
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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here are a few progress pictures of the build of the fastcat 605
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19-06-2010, 06:21
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Yesterday the hull and mould where taken out of the factory and turned around by cranes and back in to the factory.
I have attached a few pictures of this process
Gideon
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20-06-2010, 01:30
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southampton UK
Boat: Jaguar 22 mono called Arfur.
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It must have looked huge in the factory, but now you've seen it outside it's still huge.
A major landmark passed, lots to do but you're getting there.
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Ex Prout 31 Sailor, Now it's a 22ft Jaguar called 'Arfur' here in sunny Southampton, UK.
A few places left in Quayside Marina and Kemps Marina.
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20-06-2010, 01:41
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Yes you are right it is a major task , the mould's for the deck and the saloon roof and Bimini are already finished and so are all the interior bulkheads so the work will speed up from this moment on. Next weeks we will infuse the complete deck and most of the interior moulds are also done, it is now a puzzle that needs to be put together, a race against the clock but so far on schedule.
Greetings
Gideon
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20-06-2010, 03:53
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia
Boat: Seawind 1000XL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastcat435
She will not get a sliding door but 3 piece folding doors .Gideon
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Like a seawind 1160/1250?
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20-06-2010, 05:34
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Commercial Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Hallo factor
I have found the doors on the Seawind site looks very nice and fantastic to have such a big opening , we use a concertina door on the 445 and the same will be used on the 605 plus one added single door, we need a large door opening since the first 605 is build for a surgeon and the boat will have a operating theatre in it to do operations for people living on the islands in the Pacific south sea. Stretchers will have to be moved in and out. The center door is the one that opens first towards starboard and the left and right part can also be opened. Each door segment is around 54 CM for a total opening of 1.5 meters
I have attached a picture of the Seawind doors and of the Fastcat 445
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20-06-2010, 06:23
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Woodlands, Texas
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Price ballpark
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Originally Posted by fastcat435
.....so when sailing by yourself you do not have to wake up anybody
Price ... may be posted in the Vendor's Forum ONLY...
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Since this thread is now in the Vendor's Forum can you repost the price? If not can you PM it to me? I'm sure it's one of those "If you have to ask ..." things but who knows, the Powerball might come through for me.
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