Peel A Way paint removal system

[dptconst]

I've used PeelAway for years in my historic home restoration business. There are several different products they offer. Their technical staff has always been very helpful. I would call them and ask for specific guidance on your project. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Dave

[HappyMdRSailor]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

What sand paper grit would you use and what type of sander?

Originally Posted by Snowpetrel

I've used 36 grit on a Makita 7 inch sander/polisher. Damn near killed me, but I took a lot of epoxy of as well. Keen to hear what Minaret uses, that's a pretty good effort.

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36 grit with this pad and a 7" grinder...

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[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by Snowpetrel

I've used 36 grit on a Makita 7 inch sander/polisher. Damn near killed me, but I took a lot of epoxy of as well. Keen to hear what Minaret uses, that's a pretty good effort.

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oh I'm not looking forward to this.

[Snowpetrel]

Fingers crossed for you! If you can get the bulk of the antifouling of with the paint stripper it should make it easier for you. The antifouling used to clog the paper, and I wasn't happy to dry sand the antifouling, so I scraped most of it off by hand, then used the 36 grit on the leftover antifouling and to clean up and feather the epoxy edges.

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[HappyMdRSailor]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

oh I'm not looking forward to this.

The first few minutes will put a smile on your face from the amount of material you are able to get off the boat... The fun disappears exponentially or logarithmically shortly after after that...

[minaret]

Originally Posted by HappyMdRSailor

The first few minutes will put a smile on your face from the amount of material you are able to get off the boat... The fun disappears exponentially or logarithmically shortly after after that...

Come on, I love bottom grinding! After that last color match, you should understand why. No challenge brainless work, even of this nature, can be an appealing break after a few of those.



Here is an older thread on this topic:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ion-71361.html

[dptconst]

Try calling Peel Away tech dept. They have been very helpful in the past. I believe they have a specialty product for hulls. Keep in mind the environmental advantage of not grinding that stuff into airborn debris. I use it for lead paint removal.

[Matt Johnson]

We're planning on leaving the hull bare aluminum after stripping the old/cracked Awlgrip. It won't be totally fair or pretty, but I don't want to deal with topside paint if I don't have too. So If I were to sand most of it off instead of chemical stripping, I think I'll need to go with a pretty non aggressive grit or risk really gouging it up. I tried a 80 grit flap disk in the grinder, and while to took the paint off fast, it also mooned out the hull in a few spots (operator error). At this marina, I cannot build a tent for the boat, only vacuum sanding is allowed (I don't know why), so anything smaller than 6" in my random orbital or 4 1/2 with my grinder attachment are the only options I have.

Any ideas on what you'd do on an aluminum topsides?

Matt

[HappyMdRSailor]

Originally Posted by minaret

Come on, I love bottom grinding! After that last color match, you should understand why. No challenge brainless work, even of this nature, can be an appealing break after a few of those.
Here is an older thread on this topic:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ion-71361.html

Whatchyou mean "after" keemosabe... I'm still unsprayed!
Got busy, then diverted funds...

The guys at GCP are true gems... some "fixin's" are on the way gratis..
I'll update the blues thread...

[Snowpetrel]

Originally Posted by funjohnson

We're planning on leaving the hull bare aluminum after stripping the old/cracked Awlgrip. It won't be totally fair or pretty, but I don't want to deal with topside paint if I don't have too. So If I were to sand most of it off instead of chemical stripping, I think I'll need to go with a pretty non aggressive grit or risk really gouging it up. I tried a 80 grit flap disk in the grinder, and while to took the paint off fast, it also mooned out the hull in a few spots (operator error). At this marina, I cannot build a tent for the boat, only vacuum sanding is allowed (I don't know why), so anything smaller than 6" in my random orbital or 4 1/2 with my grinder attachment are the only options I have.

Any ideas on what you'd do on an aluminum topsides?

Matt

Ha, Matt, I've been thinking about this myself. I'll probably sandblast the decks, but leave the hull painted. Cleaning out all the filler would be a huge job, much more work than a fair few 5 year repaints. So I'll just paint it and go sailing. If it gets damaged so be it.

If your building a serious alloy boat, leaving the hull bare is a great idea. But I think if the bog and paints in reasonable condition it makes a lot of sense just to keep it painted.

Saying that I've seen a few alloy boats where the topsides have been sandblasted. It looked quite good.

[Rustic Charm]

Well everyone, I am back to give my verdict and before I proclaim Mineret was absolutely right, and post some pictures this is my view.

There is absolutely no way, this stuff would stick to the paper. That's the first problem and that meant I had a mess everywhere.

I peeled the paper away and tried my hardest with a scrapper to get the layers of paint to come away with it, but the product did little that any other chemical paint remover wouldn't have done without the need for expensive paper.

I found the stuff had predominantly dried out under the paper too.

The real surprise is that when I was applying this stuff I thought it had a better chance of working on the anti-foul. But, it didn't do anything to the anti-foul over most of the boat. Zero! Around the rudder it took some off, but that's where I plonked it on with a brush and had it on about 5 or 6mm or thicker just to try that. But even there it refused to stick to the paint.

Now, the manafacturers will say I didn't follow the application guide because the guide states for heavy layers, you may need up to 6mm with thick exterior paint. The problem is, to put it on with a thickness of 6mm I'd need about 30kg plus kg per side and I'd have to put it on with something more than a brush. That makes it exceptionally expensive just for the product then on top the $3 a sheet of paper.

In the end, I wasted a day putting it on and a day taking it off. I'm still going to have to do some heavy duty sanding. And I'll need to clean the slip area up if I want to keep the owner a friend.

My verdict Not again. Not for a boat. Save your money and pay someone to paint your boat rather than use this product.

[Rustic Charm]

Sorry about that last one. Have no idea how that got on my computer

[Wotname]

I feel your pain...I have experienced similar and learnt there is no pain free way of removing many layers of old paint except the time honoured ways - cash or sand blasting. I know you can't sand blast in your yard but ....

[minaret]

Sorry you went that route, looks like it'll be a bear to clean it up from there. Just sand the other side and see which one takes longer.

Homer, lol!

[minaret]

Originally Posted by Wotname

I feel your pain...I have experienced similar and learnt there is no pain free way of removing many layers of old paint except the time honoured ways - cash or sand blasting. I know you can't sand blast in your yard but ....

Sand blasting (or any blasting) is a terrible way to remove material from a boat, as it has no provision for maintaining hull fairness. Unless, of course, it's a steel boat.