Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-10-2015, 05:35   #46
Moderator
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Albany Ga.
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 17,062
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

For the aluminum boat, I'd try "Aircraft paint stripper" Just buy a gallon to see if it works, try a small area. It's nothing really except just good paint stripper, for aircraft I use a very good pressure washer to remove it, it seems to soften paint to the point to where a pressure washer will remove it, just washing it off with a hose won't remove nearly as much as a pressure washer will.
__________________

__________________
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2015, 16:07   #47
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowpetrel View Post
RC, what a shame the peel away didn't work, mind you I think from memory the day you applied it had about 28 deg and 15% humidity, at least down here, so maybe that's why it dryer out so quick?

Anyway, I ended up using a tungsten carbide scraper with a long handle, and a 180mm dander polished to clean up the mess I made.

A good one (I borrowed the Makita) will set you back about $350. A cheapie like the ryobi from bunnings is about $150. I have a ROC one, but It almost Certainly wouldn't cope with much real work, but if you're close to the store the warranty might make it work for a one off project. Gilows sander looks very neat. Hopefully he brings it over when he sails over this way...

Anyway, another thought is that the bottom Isnt really all that bad, or at least it wasn't when I saw it. No where near as bad as snowpetrels was for most of my ownership. I held off sandblasting because of cost, I also didn't want to loose any metal, and refairing would have been a huge job. In your case I would be reluctant to sandblast, as there didn't seem to be much rust or bare metal, just a bunch of blotchy stuff that could be repaired without taking the lot off if necessary.

You know when the antifoulings getting bad because half it comes off with the waterblaster!
I don't know what the humidity was but the temp was around 22. It was comfortable weather but not hot.

I got tied up with work yesterday so I didn't see Richardson's the guys with the syncrolift to see what sort of price they would look at.
__________________

__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2015, 16:10   #48
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by GILow View Post
Yep, for plasterboard, or Gyprock if you want to be very Aussie. Drywall is the American name.


Bought it when I was building our house. Have found all sorts of silly uses for it since. It is one of the few tools I bought for the house building that I did not sell the moment I had finished the house.


One of these:


https://sydneytools.com.au/porter-ca...FUIIvAodcXoBmg
That one will cost me an additional $150 for delivery to here.

With plaster there's barely any pressure needed to take the plaster off. How does this work on a long arm for taking off paint? Can you get the pressure on it?
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2015, 20:40   #49
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

A possible break through (before I need medication for depression ), the slip owner has told me he's happy if I get someone to soda blast it, on the condition they tent it up properly.

Initially I was finding it hard to find a Soda Blaster around as the few locals only sand blast, but I've found one willing to have a look at it later today. So fingers crossed it won't be too rediculous price. And it's got to be better than taking both masts out and having it hauled out into a shed to be done.
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2015, 20:45   #50
Bailing as fast as I can.
 
GILow's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Boat: Swanson 42
Posts: 3,585
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Crossing my fingers for you!
__________________
Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
http://www.swansonsailor.id.au
GILow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2015, 20:56   #51
Registered User
 
Snowpetrel's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Hobart
Boat: Alloy Peterson 40
Posts: 3,071
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Sounds like a good solution. No where near as abrasive as the grit blast, so it shouldn't take of to much sound filler. Good on Tim, Tamar marine really is a good spot!
__________________
My Ramblings
Snowpetrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-10-2015, 02:47   #52
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

ive been given a price of $5500 for wet grit blasting. That's not the soda blasting. And I'm back to Square one with whether the slip owner will let them grit blast. Soda blasting was going to be to slow and costs up around $10k. I've forgotten what they said the grit is, but they are still saying it won't create a mess.

But, $5500 is $2000 more than I was hoping. I'm meeting with them on Friday morning to discuss it.
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-10-2015, 02:58   #53
Bailing as fast as I can.
 
GILow's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Boat: Swanson 42
Posts: 3,585
Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic Charm View Post
ive been given a price of $5500 for wet grit blasting. That's not the soda blasting. And I'm back to Square one with whether the slip owner will let them grit blast. Soda blasting was going to be to slow and costs up around $10k. I've forgotten what they said the grit is, but they are still saying it won't create a mess.



But, $5500 is $2000 more than I was hoping. I'm meeting with them on Friday morning to discuss it.

RC, it may or may not be helpful to you but there is a blasting setup at Yarringa Harbour which I believe may be quite economical. It has been a few years now but when we were there people were trucking boats in from the Gippsland Lakes because it was cheaper overall to truck them in than have the boats done back at Paynsville. Perhaps a light coat of undercoat and a quick sail over to Victoria?

The blasting setup is one of those permanent wall type so there's no need to remove masts or anything, they just wheel the boat in on the traveller and leave it there. It had a Swanny 42 in there when we were leaving which was handy to help the crew understand how we would handle a lobster pot if we snagged one on the way home.

Matt


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
http://www.swansonsailor.id.au
GILow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-10-2015, 03:01   #54
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Matt, do you think this would be similar to what you have? It has free postage.

Starke Drywall Sander Vacuum Connector Bonus Bag | Buy Sanders
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-10-2015, 03:11   #55
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by GILow View Post
RC, it may or may not be helpful to you but there is a blasting setup at Yarringa Harbour which I believe may be quite economical. It has been a few years now but when we were there people were trucking boats in from the Gippsland Lakes because it was cheaper overall to truck them in than have the boats done back at Paynsville. Perhaps a light coat of undercoat and a quick sail over to Victoria?

The blasting setup is one of those permanent wall type so there's no need to remove masts or anything, they just wheel the boat in on the traveller and leave it there. It had a Swanny 42 in there when we were leaving which was handy to help the crew understand how we would handle a lobster pot if we snagged one on the way home.

Matt
Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
No, the only option of taking it anywhere would be to enlist someone else to do the whole painting thing. Because I can't have it sand blasted and then put back in the water to bring it back here so I can paint it.

But, not doing it this year is starting to be a consideration again. By the time the welding has been done I might be up to $6000 without painting. Plus I have to buy the paint products I have ordered.

Not sure again now.
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2015, 08:20   #56
Moderator
 
HappyMdRSailor's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Mississippi
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon-C22 Chrysler Sunpiper- 19 Potter-Preparing to cruise w/my girl
Posts: 5,980
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Don't give up hope...

These are the situations that usually come with an unexpected surprise for the patient man...
__________________
In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair...

Mai Tai's fix everything...
HappyMdRSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2015, 17:35   #57
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyMdRSailor View Post
Don't give up hope...

These are the situations that usually come with an unexpected surprise for the patient man...
And you are so right

As this is a public forum I won't publicise exactly what I've been offered, but I can tell you that the $5.5k I was advised by my welder guy is now down to $2.5k by another quote. I now know for sure what I've suspected since last year and that is that I've been massively over charged in the past. We we arn't talking hundreds, but thousands.

And I'm back now to contemplating a full grit blasting and doing it properly.
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2015, 18:05   #58
Registered User
 
LeaseOnLife's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: out cruising again
Boat: Sailboat
Posts: 1,047
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic Charm View Post
ive been given a price of $5500 for wet grit blasting. That's not the soda blasting. And I'm back to Square one with whether the slip owner will let them grit blast. Soda blasting was going to be to slow and costs up around $10k. I've forgotten what they said the grit is, but they are still saying it won't create a mess.

But, $5500 is $2000 more than I was hoping. I'm meeting with them on Friday morning to discuss it.
Stupid expensive! I am getting my 44ft plastic toy soda blasted by a mobile service for $2000 US this fall. Includes tarping and clean up. Came recommended by the yard, and I have seen the bottoms he did last year, nice work.
__________________
LeaseOnLife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2015, 18:08   #59
Registered User
 
Rustic Charm's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,898
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeaseOnLife View Post
Stupid expensive! I am getting my 44ft plastic toy soda blasted by a mobile service for $2000 US this fall. Includes tarping and clean up. Came recommended by the yard, and I have seen the bottoms he did last year, nice work.
yep. well, your $2000 US is $2800 here which is closer to the $3000 I was expecting.
__________________
Rustic Charm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2015, 20:55   #60
Bailing as fast as I can.
 
GILow's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Boat: Swanson 42
Posts: 3,585
Re: Peel A Way paint removal system

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic Charm View Post
Matt, do you think this would be similar to what you have? It has free postage.



Starke Drywall Sander Vacuum Connector Bonus Bag | Buy Sanders

Certainly similar concept. On paper it actually looks a little better than mine, 600 watts vs 450 watts, adjustable handle vs fixed length. Certainly a better price.

My only concern is with its strength. I wonder if that adjustable handle allows you to lean into it to get adequate force. Due to the length I only get barely adequate force on mine, which as I mentioned, makes it pretty slow but less prone to clogging the disks.

But, a good price, and if all else fails you can drop it on gumtree and get a few dollars back if it does not work.




Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________

__________________
Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
http://www.swansonsailor.id.au
GILow is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
paint, paint removal, removal

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Peel ply...how difficult /easy.... delcrest Construction, Maintenance & Refit 14 19-11-2014 23:02
Flaking/delamination so a gelcoat peel DaveC Construction, Maintenance & Refit 5 16-11-2014 20:35
bottom peel sardinebreath Monohull Sailboats 0 24-12-2013 17:12
Paint Shaver Pro for bottom paint removal SVTatia Construction, Maintenance & Refit 1 22-03-2012 21:07
Hull Strength After a Peel Jim H Construction, Maintenance & Refit 13 16-12-2005 23:13



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 15:59.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.