I have followed this thread with some ammusement and incredulity. CnC40, I think you are not quite understanding the speed thing here also. remember I also own an older C&C like you a 35MKIII and it will sail the crap out of yours on corrected time. Go up to the Great Lakes
..there is no 40 ft class, but there is a whole 35 foot C&C class racing
like the J Boats here on the Chessie. Yes I go past a lot of the larger production boats in 10 knots of wind
or greater, but that does not make them inferior. Maybe they are just out for a nice leasurely sail, maybe they have company, maybe the first mate doesnt like the rail down and the sheets
tugged in to the max. We take our little racer/ cruiser to New England
ever year off shore 60 miles. Do we hunker the sails
style...no way we would be worn out. No need to
A lot of owners like usually do a fair amount of research
and match the style of sailing they do to the type of boat they purchase
. There are many tradeoff which are made including concessiones for living space, storage
space, tankage, engine
, cored vs non cored, speed, comfort in a seaway. sail area, displacement
, etc. Denigrating a boat brand and the people who buy that boat is not what I am about. There is no doubt the large Hunters such as Don Lucass boat are veertainly seaworthy
and stout enough to cruise offshore
on ( Look at the Sequitar posts on Sailnet to follow their adventures). While I might look for a different boat than a Hunter I would not thing to ridicule the boat he has bought becasue it obviously makes him happy and he is out there sailing the hell out of it. You buy what suits you at the price p;oint which you can afford and get out there sailing. Not every sail is a race
Some of my friends own Tartans. some Sabres, Some Hunters, some Sundeers, Hans Christians, Catalinas, Benetaues..all types. They know what they have bought, and they know how much they are worth and know what their resale value is. One of the best resale value boats is a Catalina
. Thats a production boat.
As far as C&Cs go I would NEVER buy a new one. They are not made the same as they were 28 years ago. I dont like the new process which they are made. I dont like the lightening of the boat. We are looking for our last boat to cruise
on when we retire. Having been on and sailed over 100 boats in my lifetime we have narrowed it down to two or three. 43 Mason, 41.1 Bristol, or 43 Hans Chrisian Christina. They fit our personality and qualifications. Speed is not as imprtant to me ( although they are not pigs) as is a protected skeg rudder
, comfort in the seaway, variable sail plans to adjust to differing wind
conditions with a second forestay, tankage, structural build, berths while in the seaway making passage
, weight distribution, build quality, quiality equipment
. This was in no particular order.
Do I want a wide transom...no, but if that was important I would look it would be a priority for me. It sure is a nice feature to have the sterns which recover dingys easier than my transverse one does, but you trade
off some performance. Do I look at the plumb bows of the newer boats with admiration, no I like the sheer lines of the older ones, but that doesnt make the plumb bows inferior either. Do I want a B&R rig, no I like a backstay and like a masthead rig as most of the trade
winds sailing will not be beats and I want performance down wind and dont want to worry about my main hitting the spreaders either. I want a variety of sail configuartions so a conversion to a cutter
rig may be in my future.
I am a traditionalist like you are in many ways, but other see their boats as the way the want them. Far be if for me to make fun of them for their choices or to think so little oif their intelligence that they made uninformed decisions. They choose what suits them and most are happy with it. Most importantly they sail them and enjoy the cammradiere of the sailing lifestyle.