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Old 09-06-2013, 20:50   #16
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Re: When to attach to jack line.

My family has decided to follow a simple and unambiguous rule this year: If you put in one reef put on your PFD, two reefs - clip in. That's the minimum. Of course other conditions warrant clipping in and those tend to be obvious - night, confused sea state, squalls in the distance, etc. Interestingly this rule has made it now commonplace for us to clip in, where as before it somehow seemed to be an awkward uncertainty. Now that kind of old thinking seems pretty dumb to us. Just do it.
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My family has decided to follow a simple and unambiguous rule this year: If you put in one reef put on your PFD, two reefs - clip in. That's the minimum. Of course other conditions warrant clipping in and those tend to be obvious - night, confused sea state, squalls in the distance, etc. Interestingly this rule has made it now commonplace for us to clip in, where as before it somehow seemed to be an awkward uncertainty. Now that kind of old thinking seems pretty dumb to us. Just do it.

I think it's like seat belts. If you just always use your seatbelt, you don't think anything about it.
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Re: When to attach to jack line.

I am tethered:

- offshore
- heavy weather
- single-handing
- at night

I also like u-bolts in the corners of the cockpit.

I am tethered before I enter the cockpit.
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Re: When to attach to jack line.

When I sail offshore, we have the jacklines rigged. When we leave the salon, in inflatable harness and clipped in. Hard and fast rule. May sound like overkill, but I have been pitched off the cockpit seat by an unexpected wave at night. Could have pitched me out instead of to the middle of the cockpit. i was tethered and it would have made more difference, but we were in offshore conditions that one would think were too calm to require tether.
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Old 09-06-2013, 21:32   #20
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Re: When to attach to jack line.

Re: polyester jacklines, I think I got mine from West Marine (link). These are plain polyester webbing, which I think is superior to nylon because of polyester's lower stretch. I've rigged my jacklines when sailing on the open ocean, and they've been out on deck for about one year cumulative, with no evident degradation.

Most of my ocean sailing is crewed, and my policy is simple: Our PFDs go on when we leave the dock, and once we've left harbor and are on the ocean we attach our tethers. This is in fair weather and foul, with only occasional and careful exceptions. I like having the crew (and myself) comfortable working in our safety gear, so when things get stressful we're not getting tangled up in our tethers. To and from Hawaii we sail 24/7, and if someone goes overboard, especially at night, their odds aren't good. I've never had crew complain about this policy (not to me, anyway), and I have had a few thank me for it years later.

Now that I'm sailing in the more protected waters of Puget Sound and the area, I will need to revisit my tether policy. Still, while the water may not be as rough, it's *cold*!

Anyway, that's for my boat and those who sail on it. I won't argue with anyone who does it differently.
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When on deck alone

At night

Offshore

When conditions are rough

Any combination of the above
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Re: When to attach to jack line.

It's just Connie and I aboard our boat, most times ! We rig jack lines before leaveing the dock. At sea we pretty much control the boat from the pliot house, but any time we leave the house we hook up ! But then we are not youngsters! so we don't take any chances. And we do MOB drills at least once a month, and she use's our equipment aboard to lift me from the water( or dock lol) Helps with when ya don't have a gym membership LOL But no kidding some of ya other folks at least ya couples should do a little practice with MOB, ya never know when mama will need ta pull your overweight butt back aboard !!
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Its a feeling... I normally clip on at night unless its quite calm. I wouldnt clip on daytime unless its quite rough.
I normally clip on if I need to work on the foredeck.

I clip on when going forward to watch dolphins.

If you do it as you feel the need to you will learn more than doing it when someone else thiinks you need to.
Good point! Funny videos too. Are you still in Grenada? One of my favorite islands.
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Good point! Funny videos too. Are you still in Grenada? One of my favorite islands.

Yep, in Grenada

Perfect weather now... cool at night.

Just to keep on thread.... I am at anchor, downstairs, at the Nav table, with my morning coffee,..... clipped on.


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Wow! I envy you.

Rented a house above Pink Gin Beach last year, while looking for a boat. The view to the South and the sunsets were unbelievable. Finally found the boat and hope to be down there, this time next year. Will find out how easy I can solo the boat, in Guadeloupe, in the next few weeks. Hence, my question about the tether.
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Will find out how easy I can solo the boat,
Its much easier than you think. Just take it slow. One thing at a time. You dont have to get to hull speed, just flop around and get to know the best way for you to do stuff.



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Yep, in Grenada

Perfect weather now... cool at night.

Just to keep on thread.... I am at anchor, downstairs, at the Nav table, with my morning coffee,..... clipped on.


I think your just teasing. But those solo guys can go overboard on things....
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Re: When to Attach to a Jackline

I have rigged up my tether so that its always on my lifejacket, hence I can always clip on anytime I need , not much point in finding yourself on the bow, and wishing you had the tether!

With the modern confortable compact ( I use spinlock) lifejackets , Ive dispensed with harnesses completely anyway.

Yes in low winds, warm waters etc, Ive used nothing, its all a question of being sensible.

Mind you as was said about "common sense" , much of it is neither "common" or "sensible"


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I have rigged up my tether so that its always on my lifejacket, hence I can always clip on anytime I need , not much point in finding yourself on the bow, and wishing you had the tether!
I prefer to have tethers placed strategically all around the boat. A couple on the cockpit, two on each jackline, one at the mast, one at the bow.

The cow hitched Spinlock tethers are not my first choice. I switch tethers as I move around; I attach one before releasing the other. I like the quick releases.

I wear a Mustang HIT with a harness at all times on deck.
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Re: When to Attach to a Jackline

SWMBO and I go by the RORC rules for harness use, we always sail double handed.

A harness and lifejacket shall be worn when on deck:

a) between the hours of sunset and sunrise
b) when alone on deck
c) when reefed
d) when the true wind speed is 25 knots or above
e) when the visibility is less than 1 nautical mile

We also have 7 tethers. 3 clip ones on the jackstays, 2 at the forward end of the cockpit, which reach below; 2 at the aft end and one right on the stern so the self steering gear can be reached easily.

We move from tether to tether, never becoming unclipped.
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