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Old 19-02-2016, 23:14   #16
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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

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Actually go back and read the original post. It's a bit of both but I read it as first what is coastal vs blue water cruising.

"It seems to me people have differences in understanding in what is Coastal Cruising, what is Ocean Cruising"

Then again, I wasn't the one who defined it as blue water boats are designed for the incompetent.
I had to reread the title and the op you are right they seem to be conflicting .
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Old 19-02-2016, 23:27   #17
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A blue water boat is a boat that when you are about to run into another boat you worry about the damage you are going to do to the other boat with no concern for any damage being done to your boat!
A humorous metaphor for a strong, well-found, proper cruising vessel.
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Old 20-02-2016, 00:18   #18
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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

Post #5 nailed it lol.
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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

My take on the question is. A blue water boat is a boat that can safely take you across an ocean, a blue water boat from the 70s and 80s, is a very different boat from a blue water boat of the 00s and 10s TJMHO.

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Old 20-02-2016, 01:17   #20
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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

A coastal boat is one that hits an onshore rock, tears off the keel and sinks.

An Blue Water boat is one that hits a floating container at sea, tears off the keel and sinks.

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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

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A coastal boat is one that hits an onshore rock, tears off the keel and sinks.

An Blue Water boat is one that hits a floating container at sea, tears off the keel and sinks.

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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

Based on what people are doing in the real world, as opposed to debating on the internet, there is almost no difference between what boats are suitable for coastal and blue water. The real differences are between how the boats are equipped, whether they are an IP or a Bene.
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A coastal boat is one that hits an onshore rock, tears off the keel and sinks.

An Blue Water boat is one that hits a floating container at sea, tears off the keel and sinks.

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A coastal boat is one that hits an onshore rock, tears off the keel and sinks.

An Blue Water boat is one that hits a floating container at sea, tears off the keel and sinks.

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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

A lot of times the answer seems to be "(list of builders) are ALL coastal boats. Except for my coastal boat, which I'm pretty sure is built far more stoutly."
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If your looking for a 'Yardstick'.. how about this...
Boats built to Lloyds specification are 'Blue Water'..
Everything else is meant for 'Coastal Waters'...
What owners choose to do however is a whole different ball game..
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If your looking for a 'Yardstick'.. how about this...
Boats built to Lloyds specification are 'Blue Water'..
Everything else is meant for 'Coastal Waters'...
What owners choose to do however is a whole different ball game..
Not disagreeing with you but what about the newer CE offshore ratings we see on most of the newer boats?
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Not disagreeing with you but what about the newer CE offshore ratings we see on most of the newer boats?
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Re: Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

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Coastal cruising means you can get into a sheltered harbor if weather prediction suggest the need. Blue water sailing means you are far enough off shore (beyond say a 3 day prediction) that you have to deal with whatever weather comes at you.
The problem with this explanation is Summer Squalls that pop up suddenly. If you are 8-10 miles out into the Chesapeake Bay and one pops up, there is no running for shelter. Sometimes they are traveling very fast

And what's worse is all the obstacles in the bay and shipping traffic in the two restricted deep water channels not to mention the bridge down the southern end and it's four islands

Many times folks are simply repeating their positions on channel 16 because they cannot be seen and no one can see them

We had 70 knot winds during one squall a few years back that dislodged an anchored oil tanker and ran it aground. (luckily it wasn't pushed into the bridge) A friend had sails torn in half on his 46' Formosa who had been out day sailing maybe 5 miles offshore with a full crew

Also, some of these squalls could be worse for you if you were in a busy narrow creek with no where to maneuver. I was hit by one that had maybe 35 knot winds.

I was just about to head into the creek a couple times but decided it best to stay out in the bay and ride it out where I had some room.

Once with sails down and the engine running at low rpm to keep the bow into the wind only, and the second time with sails up. That time I just hove too for maybe an hour and had a beer (or two)
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