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Old 12-09-2015, 05:24   #91
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To best of my knowledge, SAR authorities down under have no powers to force abandonment.



In fact many SAR "authorities" in inshore and near shore areas are volunteers with very little powers at all except the power of wanting to help in any way they can.

Thanks for correcting me Wotname, apologies for the misperception. And kudos to all those volunteers!



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Old 12-09-2015, 05:51   #92
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To best of my knowledge, SAR authorities down under have no powers to force abandonment.

In fact many SAR "authorities" in inshore and near shore areas are volunteers with very little powers at all except the power of wanting to help in any way they can.

I dont recall any safety inspections for any vessels departing Oz but that may have changed lately. NZ does require NZ flagged vessels to have fairly stringent safety equipment before allowing departure.
That's correct.

Though there not 'authorities'. Off shore, it's customs or what's now called Tony's Border Force, police or our Navy that is responsible for rescues of this kind. But even then I don't believe they have the authority to force an evacuation.
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No doubt we will find out in due course if he made the right decision to stay onboard if he gets to a port. Or the wrong decision if he never does.

Boats allows folks to make own choices, including when no black & white or easy ones.

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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

I hadn't read all of the posts. Picking him apart for age or preparedness not leaving what sounds like all of his worldly possessions.


As prepared as he seemed. I am surprised, at least it sounds like, he didn't have an emergency or if you will an aux. tiller.
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I hadn't read all of the posts. Picking him apart for age or preparedness not leaving what sounds like all of his worldly possessions.


As prepared as he seemed. I am surprised, at least it sounds like, he didn't have an emergency or if you will an aux. tiller.
What I gleaned earlier without re-reading is that it wasn't a steerage issue, but a leak issue with the ruddershaft/box/seal/bearing/thingamajig
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What I gleaned earlier without re-reading is that it wasn't a steerage issue, but a leak issue with the ruddershaft/box/seal/bearing/thingamajig
Possibly I misread it as hydraulic steering pump problem? I'll see if I can find it. Not that is that important.

The important thing is he appears OK. I'm looking forward to hearing he is in port.
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Possibly I misread it as hydraulic steering pump problem? I'll see if I can find it. Not that is that important.

The important thing is he appears OK. I'm looking forward to hearing he is in port.
Agreed.... Not important...

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Agreed... I look forward to good news as well...
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AIS? WHERE ARE YOU.. ?
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Bludi heck Jim, you have gone and proved something I have always suspected...

That you are smarter than than me and have far better comprehension

That must be why you are cruising around while I remain a weekend wannabe...
Nahh, Wottie, it is because you have a useful and wanted skill (fixing helicopters an such), and I no longer can provide anything beneficial to society, so they let me go my way!

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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

Hi, Fishbreath,

It's quite possible he has no AIS. Far more Australian boats don't have them than do.

If it is true that he had all his worldly possessions aboard, and that his sails are poor, he may be a very low bucks operation.

I wish him safe passage back to Oz.

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On edit, Jim just told me that we do know that the Mahi has no AIS.
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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

And re departure inspections/requirements:

In Oz, there seem to be no requirements for the vessel other than proper registration. When we cleared out a month ago, the boarding officers spent a long time hecking paperwork and advising us of the procedures for returning, both scheduled and emergency types of return. They hardly looked at the boat, other than to comment on the timberwork.

In NZed, Kiwi boats are indeed inspected, and must meet Category 1 equipment and crew regulations to be granted cleaarance. This regulation is pretty inclusive and often adds considerable expense to an offshore trip. In my eyes, many of the requirements are more suited to the raceboats that they were aimed at than a familly cruiser, but my opinion has zero weight in NZ!

Notwithstanding this quibble, the Kiwi Navy, as mentioned, has an enviable record for skilled and compassionate rescues at sea, one that other navies of the world should note.

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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

While I do hope he gets to Oz safely, let's not forget his orginial float plan was to return to his girlfriend in Fiji (apparently permanently).

From the sketchly information we have thirdhand here, it sounds like he might have some difficulty in achieving this outcome.

Still one step at a time, return to Oz, find a way to get going again and hopefully the girlfriend is still waiting for him
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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

The man is 78. May not know what AIS is and could care less. He has probably navigated all his life without it. So he had a failure. I for one finding those demeaning him as sick. JMHO I hope all can make it 5 weeks on an expected 2 week trip.
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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

Lots of conjecture in this thread but the pics show a reasonable looking boat and lots of people have all their worldly possessions on their boat.

Re his sails and stuff.... once again looks ok in the pics but if your steering is stuffed life gets rather hard and, yes, lots of boats have no emergency steering settup.

How many boats abandoned in the ARC over the years due to steering failures? Rather a lot I think...

late 70's? AIS? Probably still using a typewriter and abacus... couldn't ask for help earlier cos he had run out of pigeons.... 'hmm...send message or eat pigeon... decisions decisions....'
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Re: Urgent Assistance To Find Missing Australian Yacht

As mentioned earlier AIS is kinda rare down here. It's primary use is avoiding big ships, and the waters around us are just way less populated than some of you are used to, hence an unnecessary expense.
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