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Old 06-08-2014, 14:42   #1
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Security Bars for Hatches

We want to install security bars on our large hatches and would like input to get it right the first time. Any suggestions? The obvious parameters apply - ease of use of hatch, not obtrusive, etc. These would be to slow down significantly an intruder. I don't think we could stop someone who is determined enough.
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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

I would like to see some photos of the different installations on Companionway and other hatches.
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Old 06-08-2014, 15:12   #3
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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

is it easier to force your hatches through the acrylic or by prying off the whole hatch?
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Old 06-08-2014, 15:36   #4
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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

How about a tic-tac-toe grid of stainless square bar stock which hinges open and latches, from inside, or slides open on track/channel?
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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

Of course all the forum numbskulls will say that a 2 year old baby can get through this... and thats without even looking at it!

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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

We have two hatches in each berth. On one I had a single stainless bar installed which would prevent anyone but a child from getting through. It is solidly screwed through the frame with four screws. We left the other open in case of fire. So, in an area of concern we only leave the one open and use the side ports for additional ventilation. It makes leaving the boat much easier. Also, since it's a catamaran, we have a chain that locks the double sliding door closed but allows about 5 inches of space for ventilation. I don't have any photo's but it's easy enough to imagine.

Another option is to not sail where you need security bars, like the Mediterranean. I have near zero fear of night time intruders there while in the Caribbean it was constant, except for St. Barts.
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Another option is to not sail where you need security bars, like the Mediterranean. I have near zero fear of night time intruders there while in the Caribbean it was constant, except for St. Barts.
So true No worries over here.
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A two year old baby could get through that... and without even looking!




But seriously. One thing that has been mentioned, which I consider absolutely critical, is leaving yourself an easy method of escaping in case of a fire. If the bars are to be used when you're not onboard, that's a whole different matter. But if you are going to lock yourself in then you need to consider how you will get out--in the dark, with choking smoke, when panic is setting in, and flames are licking at your toes.

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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

If the hatches were closed, you would need to break the acrylic. They cannot be pried off.
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Re: Security Bars for Hatches

The companionway is easy, as shown by Mark J. But Hatches.. a bit of a problem. Do you want to leave the boat and have the hatches open? If so you need bars or something attached inside. Unfortunately, this disallows you peeking out a hatch also. (V berth , pullman etc) Seems everytime I leave a boat with a beautiful sunny day, a storm cell passes thru while I'm in town soaking everything! If you want night security... I wonder if a small chain and lock allowing the hatch to only be opened 10" or so would work? Or lock hole thru a hatch support bar? By the time some guy wiggles thru the 10" you will have removed his legs with the machete... :>)
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I consider absolutely critical, is leaving yourself an easy method of escaping in case of a fire.
Yes, one needs to be able to opne them. and have smoke detectors too. My dector is great, and my hatches, doors etc open.
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