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Old 03-01-2015, 11:40   #1
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Non floating dingy?

This is a good article related to dingies and flipping one. A good read for those considering a non floating dingy like a Portabote etc.
Hopefully anyone can link to this... How to Save a Flipped Dinghy | Sail Magazine
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Old 05-01-2015, 15:33   #2
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Nice to know! Have to try that this spring

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This is a good article related to dingies and flipping one. A good read for those considering a non floating dingy like a Portabote etc.
Hopefully anyone can link to this... How to Save a Flipped Dinghy | Sail Magazine
The other thread wasn't enough for you to bad mouth Porta Botes? They do float unless you rip the flotation foam off.
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Re: Non floating dingy?

What I got was how easy a dingy would flip, and what a pain in the a$$ to get it back to the boat without the outboard. I got stuck on an island with a dead outboard, and not even oars. It was a learning experience I only want once. We used the tide and a makeshift sail, but would have gone right past the mothership had we not had someone there to throw us a line.
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This is a good article related to dingies and flipping one. A good read for those considering a non floating dingy like a Portabote etc.
Hopefully anyone can link to this... How to Save a Flipped Dinghy | Sail Magazine

Sory Cheechako: your info on the Porta Bote is faulty. Please be more careful in your future assertions so as to not mislead people who are looking for real answers.
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Re: Non floating dingy?

Whoa... A little testy, are we?

My Portabote floats, but with the engine attached I'm not so sure it would. I think I'll add more flotation to be sure.

The article has made me think about how I'd fare in a similar situation, and made me think of some changes I'll be making. Thanks!
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Flipping or rolling a dinghy? I've done it a couple too many times in round bottomed ones, including one I built. That is why I designed, built the tooling and have built the prototype of this dinghy. Okay, it looks like a power boat hull, consequently those chines give it a lot of stability. I was pleased with the 2.97m prototype. Floatation included under fwd and aft seats.
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Flipping or rolling a dinghy? I've done it a couple too many times in round bottomed ones, including one I built. That is why I designed, built the tooling and have built the prototype of this dinghy. Okay, it looks like a power boat hull, consequently those chines give it a lot of stability. I was pleased with the 2.97m prototype. Floatation included under fwd and aft seats.
That looks like a pretty sweet job for someone with paws, and ears that must droop down onto the workbench.
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Brob2 - woof. Sadly, my buddy in the avatar collapsed a couple months ago and is now resting comfortably on the mantle. He was the creative director for this project - came to work with me the last 11 years of his life.

PS. I really like Halifax. I was up there when 9/11 happened and was 'forced' to stick around a couple extra days. Been there a couple times.

Warm enough for you?
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Brob2 - woof. Sadly, my buddy in the avatar collapsed a couple months ago and is now resting comfortably on the mantle. He was the creative director for this project - came to work with me the last 11 years of his life.

PS. I really like Halifax. I was up there when 9/11 happened and was 'forced' to stick around a couple extra days. Been there a couple times.

Warm enough for you?
I keep reading folks talk about how unpleasant is in the Med in winter and thinking, that just doesn't sound so bad to me. Feels like Wisconsin here today.

That's a very handsome creative director on your mantle. They sure leave great memories when they move on, along with the inevitable hole in the heart.

Stay warm!
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What I got was how easy a dingy would flip, and what a pain in the a$$ to get it back to the boat without the outboard. I got stuck on an island with a dead outboard, and not even oars. It was a learning experience I only want once. We used the tide and a makeshift sail, but would have gone right past the mothership had we not had someone there to throw us a line.
Yeah, I had no point to bad mouth Porta Botes or others, but intended to get people to think about how to retrieve a dingy AND how easy they may flip. Especially when deciding what to buy.
So Porta Boats do have floatation? Someone in another thread mentioned they don't...? or maybe just enough to float the boat with nothing or no one attached?

"The other thread wasn't enough for you to bad mouth Porta Botes? They do float unless you rip the flotation foam off. "
Although I'm not particularly fond of a PB, I'm not sure I have bad mouthed the PB in the past...? Maybe I joined in on not especially liking it?.. I have no real vendetta about any dingy... But I did ride in a PB once.... That was enough for me to know it's not for me.!
We all have to make compromises... and a PB may be the answer for those with small motherships..
I just thought it was pretty good info to pass along. Love your PB if you must!
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Well if you had been in a POB, you would have seen the foam floatation panels. There is no way and dink would be certified without positive floatation.

Flotation - Applicability

I've had hard and soft dinghy's. I can say that I'm tired of the constant problems as inflatables age.So each to their own.
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dpddj, That's a pretty hull. Do you plan to go into production?
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Well if you had been in a POB, you would have seen the foam floatation panels. There is no way and dink would be certified without positive floatation.

Flotation - Applicability

I've had hard and soft dinghy's. I can say that I'm tired of the constant problems as inflatables age.So each to their own.
Actually it was in Mexico in 1985. There were no foam panels in the one I was in.
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Re: Non floating dingy?

Actually Cheechako, your inaccurate comment about portabotes got me thinking about upturned botes vs inflatables. I'm certain it would be easier from someone to flip a portabote from within the water compared to an inflatable, but of course the bote would be full of water. Using a hand pump common to kayakers, one could then pump the boat out, although it would take a long time. One might be able to get it partially emptied using a canoe re-entry technique -- rolling the bote, then heaving up -- it might work, especially with two people.

All in all, you'd likely have a better change of righting a portabote vs an inflatable from the water. What you wouldn't be able to do very easily is move a submerged (but floating) bote very easily through the water. An upturned inflatable will still move fairly easily. Not so with a bote. I wonder if you could row it submerged though, just like we used to do with submerged (but floating) canoes.

Hmmmmm...
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