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Old 05-08-2016, 06:10   #31
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Re: MOB1 RescueMe - can't figure it out

Hi captstu

Up to you
I have 2 mob1 devices that I haven't installed or tested until your post, It prompted me to finish.
Which I did after posting previous post. I had already programmed the devices .
The process wasn't hard by reading and following the instructions. I tested by the instructions and they worked fine both on chart plotter and dsc on the Vhf

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Old 05-08-2016, 06:31   #32
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Re: MOB1 RescueMe - can't figure it out

Far Star,

Thanks for the note -- I, also, programmed and tested my MOB1.

Installation is another matter. The device comes with Eight (8) parts that are used to install it - none of the parts say "Pull for Emergency" and none give any confidence the device will either work when needed or can be pried out of the installation and activated manually.

There are at least two aspects of any emergency device (think fire extinguishers).

1. They MUST work when needed - or at least as close to must as possible.
2. The MUST, absolutely, give confidence that they will work.

Fire extinguishers aren't perfect, but they tell, at a glance, if they are charged and usually give very clear instructions for activation. This device is buried in the life jacket and, if you read carefully, gives cryptic instructions on how to activate it if you are drowning and it fails to work. Huh.
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Old 08-08-2016, 16:22   #33
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Hi captstu,

Unfortunately, it looks as though this discussion is not going anywhere. You seem to have decided that the device will not work, and indeed if you have no confidence it will, then you obviously need to find another path to go.

Please acknowledge, however, that while asserting statements, you are in fact providing your own impression and opinion, and that all the advice and feedback you have received point in another direction.

Furthermore this discussion has taken a lot of time to narrow down the problem because you complained about the programming and then said that it was OK, about the installation and then said that it was OK, and in fact the only thing that didn't go according to the manual was your confidence. I can actually fully understand why your exchanges with the manufacturer did not lead to a solution for you. No matter what they replies you would say it won't work.

This is boating, not your average 100% insured activity that most people have been used to undertake, suing someone else when something goes wrong. People who think that way end up going into foul weather thinking that pressing an EPIRB "on" button will instantly pull them out to safety. It does not work that way. Life is dangerous and actually ends up in death in 100% of cases.

I believe it is the right thing that you (and your partner) have had an involved process in order for you to understand your safety device. If you don't then you had better buy a lifejacket with the device already fitted. The end result would probably be equivalent, but your confidence would be enhanced since it would be a black box with a "pull here in emergency" tether on it. Personnally, I would unpack the thing, to fully understand how the device would save my life and to understand its limitations, but that's me, and you wouldn't have to.

But please stop saying that the device is useless, complicated and does not work. You chose to buy it separately off the Internet, it works as advertised, deal with it.

Oh and also, one more thing: that camera your friend has probably came with at least a half dozen parts (battery, memory card, lanyard, maybe a lens cap, etc.) That does not mean it does not work or it is complicated. Same thing for the MOB1. I personally counted 3 parts (MOB1, clip and lanyard tape), plus the antenna rewinder and the programming bracket which are there but bot used in the installation. This all makes me wonder how you first claimed there were a dozen pieces ! (To later lower your claim to 8)

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Old 09-08-2016, 06:50   #34
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Belle Isle,

Thank you for your comments. As you noted the nature of the problem evolved during the discussion. Many people help me understand the programming and get it done correctly. That is what this group is for, I thought.

Clearly my continued dis-satisfaction is my opinion rather than absolute statement of fact. Safety devices live to a different standard than other equipment. To be completely satisfactory it must appear to work, be easy to operate, and easy to understand.

While many people expressed satisfaction with the device no one express the results for the actual test. So I must assume that under ideal circumstances it works is the manufacture intended, but this is only an assumption.

As you stated there are no absolutes and boating, I agree with that.

In theory we both agree this device represents a step forward and crew safety. I believe, and this is only my opinion, that with a little more engineering could be a much bigger step forward.

Thank you again for your comments.
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Hi Captstu,

As noted in my previous reply, I performed the tests and they behaved exactly as described in the manual. Tips was also the reason I replied. You were looking for feedback and since I had gone through it, I thought this would help both you and others in a similar situation.

I hope your perception of the device will continue to evolve until you are both satisfied and reassured.

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