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Old 02-05-2012, 21:57   #1
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Life Jacket While Tethered?

Hi everyone,

I am new to sailing, and am planning on heading South on a long term sailing trip come September. (Don't worry, my boyfriend grew up sailing!) We are trying to figure out the best/ safest, tethering method and equipment to go with. This got me thinking, does one wear a life vest while tethered?
Any thoughts or insight on what is best for cruising in general, night watch and ocean passages?
Thank you for any help & recommendations!

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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

Many people have auto-inflate PFDs with built-in harnesses. We use these aboard VALIS and they are fairly comfortable and convenient:

Mustang Inflatable PFD

Several other manufacturers have similar PFDs -- Spinlock, West Marine, and no doubt others. Some people don't like inflatable PFDs, and I suggest you research the pros and cons.

You might also want to look at the Offshore Special Regulations and see what they say about PFDs, harnesses, tethers, jacklines, and other safety gear. These are the rules for ocean racers, but they are based on many years of experience and research, and all sailors can learn something from them.
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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

Based on comments on past threads here, some life vests (both inflatable and non-inflatable) are more comfortable for women than others. You might want to do some Googling on the topic before purchasing. The good ones aren't cheap, so you want to do it right the first time.
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Hi everyone,

I am new to sailing, and am planning on heading South on a long term sailing trip come September. (Don't worry, my boyfriend grew up sailing!) We are trying to figure out the best/ safest, tethering method and equipment to go with. This got me thinking, does one wear a life vest while tethered?
Any thoughts or insight on what is best for cruising in general, night watch and ocean passages?
Thank you for any help & recommendations!

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I use exclusively a big auto inflate lifejacket with a integral harness.. It's the best solution IMHO

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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

In shitty weather and at night I wear my pfd with built in harness in good weather I wear just a harness and stay tethered most of the time.
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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

My wife and I tried on the new Spinlock Deckvest w/ built in harness, spray hood, light pilon, built in tether cutter and optional crotch straps.

It was very comfortable for both of us to wear. We've worn SOSpenders for years and will be upgrading the these before we leave.

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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

+1 for inflatable with harness. I keep one in my boat bag and where it as needed. I test is annually with a big jump in the water. It is amazing how well it works.

If you can try them on before purchasing. Find one that fits your body. What feels right to you might not feel right for your boyfriend.
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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

The Revere inflatable PFDs are a little more comfortable for women. Offshore we always wear PFDs and tethers, never leave the cockpit unless the other person is on deck. We believe that off the boat = dead. That said, I'm very interested in the new personal AIS which will locate a COB. We fear the most likely scenario is the off watch wakes, stumbles up to the cockpit only to find it empty. An AIS on the COB would save a life we hope.
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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

if yu are going to tether, might just as well use a tether with incorporated pfd. you will need it all if you go over the side. and think about it--if you are going to use a tether, what is the sense of not wearing pfd????
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if yu are going to tether, might just as well use a tether with incorporated pfd. you will need it all if you go over the side. and think about it--if you are going to use a tether, what is the sense of not wearing pfd????
Some singlehanded sailors skip the PFD and wear *only* harness / tethers when on the high seas. Their thinking is that they need to stay connected to the boat, and if the boat somehow sails away from them then nobody's going to be able to get to them in time.

I've not singlehanded across an ocean, but I would probably wear the PFD / harness, and carry a Personal Locator Beacon on the remote chance that I could survive long enough to be rescued. At least my body might be recovered...
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Many people have auto-inflate PFDs with built-in harnesses. We use these aboard VALIS and they are fairly comfortable and convenient:

Mustang Inflatable PFD

Several other manufacturers have similar PFDs -- Spinlock, West Marine, and no doubt others. Some people don't like inflatable PFDs, and I suggest you research the pros and cons.

You might also want to look at the Offshore Special Regulations and see what they say about PFDs, harnesses, tethers, jacklines, and other safety gear. These are the rules for ocean racers, but they are based on many years of experience and research, and all sailors can learn something from them.
+1. I also recommend the tethers with two attachment points, one at 3 ft. the other at 6 ft. The last thing you want to do when singlehanding is to get dragged along the side of the boat, so I attach at 3 ft. wherever possible.
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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

Thanks everyone, this gives me a better idea of what the norm is. I will check out all your recommendations! Taking a Safety at Sea Seminar next weekend which I'm sure will shed some more light on tethering etc.
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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

I think it is most comfortable to have stand alone harnesses for calm days and especially so in the tropics.

We have tethers with two hooks: one long, one short, no snapshackle; in retrospective, I would buy the same stuff except I like better the kind where the longer tether is of the 'expandable' design.

We use the tethers:
- always in bad weather,
- always at night,
- in rolly / iffy conditions.

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Re: Life Jacket While Tethered?

I have harness/tether with inflatable PFD configured for MANUAL inflation. The harness has a quick release latch. Thus, I reckon I can adapt to most anything and need not trade agility for flotation until I actually need flotation.

Also, I have had an automatic inflatable fire while crewing in heavy rain. I would rather it not do that.
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Being an irresposible idiot I use neither... but if you are going to use a tether I reckon common sense dictates an automatic PFD as well... tethers have been known to break under load..
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