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Old 25-03-2011, 21:23   #1
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Jackline Material ?

I want the jacklines to lay flat so either flat webbing or tubular (flat) webbing.

Do I spend $200 for prefab Wichard lines or get the raw materials and sew my own ? If I sew my own I might save a few bucks but the real reason would be to customize the lines so I can place shorter lengths strategically around the deck and cockpit rather than just having a long line to port and another to starboard.

If I sew my own, where should I shop for the material ?

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Old 25-03-2011, 22:12   #2
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Check out Sailrite . C o m

They have the do it yourself kit for jacklines and the intructions..
Hope this helps !!
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Old 25-03-2011, 22:18   #3
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Re: Jackline material ?

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Check out Sailrite . C o m

They have the do it yourself kit for jacklines and the intructions..
Hope this helps !!
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Thanks, I'd just read their instructions ... good timing.

I may very well go that way just to get the flexibility to customize the layout of the lines on the deck.

Getting the lines from the cockpit past the dodger is the biggest challenge.

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Old 26-03-2011, 01:37   #4
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Re: Jackline material ?

Sailrite has very high prices on webbing. I would shop around a bit if you go the diy route.
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Re: Jackline material ?

Check out REI or climbing store/sporting goods store. Tubular webbing is usually found there at a relatively cheap rate. Buy some long lengths then you can adjust while on the boat. There are so many uses for webbing on a boat. Buy extra.
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Check out REI or climbing store/sporting goods store.
Why didn't I think of that ! Not enough coffee yet.

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Check out REI or climbing store
Be a little careful . . . the inexpensive climbing webbing is nylon, while nylon will work, polyester is generally preferred for jacklines (less stretch and less UV sensitivity and less strength loss when wet).
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Re: Jackline material ?

I bought the pre-fab jacklines but I also bought a bunch of the REI 1 in tubular webbing. I use it for sail ties and have loops of it attached at various spots in the cockpit and companionway. Make great hand holds to minimize getting tossed about the place.

Rich

Edit: I suppose the REI webbing would do well enough if one only deploys jacklines once in a while. Their milspec 1 in tubing is rated for tad above 4,000 pounds and is $0.36/ft.
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Re: Jackline material ?

I used the pre-fab ones, they lasted about six years before I had to replace them, as they were deployed 24/7/365. Soak them in water so they will shrink tighter after you've tightened them as much as you can.
I ran one line down each side that way I didn't have to clip to another line as I went foreward.

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Re: Jackline material ?

A few questions:
* Do you leave them rigged? I do. If so all webbings are poor choises. Rope or SS is better.
* Are the lines of deck or on a coachroof. If not underfoot, rope or SS is better.
* Have you tested the locations while sailing? They must work easily with YOUR rigging.

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I want the jacklines to lay flat so either flat webbing or tubular (flat) webbing.

Do I spend $200 for prefab Wichard lines or get the raw materials and sew my own ? If I sew my own I might save a few bucks but the real reason would be to customize the lines so I can place shorter lengths strategically around the deck and cockpit rather than just having a long line to port and another to starboard.

If I sew my own, where should I shop for the material ?

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Jeeze---Again....

Go down to the Fisherman's Supply in San Pedro. They will make up what you need very inexpensively. I suggest 2-1/2" Nylon tubular mesh in black. It resists the sun better than other material and can be seen against a white deck even on the darkest of nights. Fisherman's Supply is a lot cheaper than any yachting supply outlet. and the boys know what they're doing. It helps to speak a little Portugese.
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Check out REI or climbing store/sporting goods store. Tubular webbing is usually found there at a relatively cheap rate. Buy some long lengths then you can adjust while on the boat. There are so many uses for webbing on a boat. Buy extra.
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I tie mine to a stern cleat, the base of the mast, and a fore cleat. No run longer than 14' so side deflection doesn't carry me over the side.

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You bet !

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Another month or two before we cast off for local cruising during the summer then head south when hurricane season is done. Tons to do to complete the daysailor to cruiser conversion.



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Re: Jackline material ?

I finally did go with the Wichard pre-made webbing jacklines.

What made up my mind for me was that they have reflective material sewn in which should make them easy to spot at night. Cost was not really a consideration because it isn't that much money that could be saved to start with in the big scheme of things.

I needed 30' lines to bring back to the cockpit so I picked 50' to give us two 20' pieces to rig in the cockpit and other places.

We did also go to REI and picked up a bunch of webbing (red, green, blue) for use as sail ties and to organize lines in the lazarettes. The twisted loop sail ties we made earlier are wonderful and having them color coded by length will be even better.

Appreciate all the inputs, thanks.



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