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Old 01-10-2015, 12:44   #16
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Re: Hurricane Joaquin - head's up - Carolinas and Chesapeake

Good luck everyone. Been through a few of these from my time in Beaufort NC and Sarasota FL.

We are closing on our boat (PSC37) in Raritan Bay New Jersey next Saturday. Current owner is hauling it for us, Boat US paying half and we are paying the other half.

Sheesh, great timing! Although I suppose if it's catastrophic I'd rather it happen now!
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Old 01-10-2015, 13:06   #17
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Re: Hurricane Joaquin - head's up - Carolinas and Chesapeake

A great article on how to prepare from a guy that helps fix the carnage:

"Safe Harbor"* by David Pascoe - Hurricane Preparation for boats,

NOTE: it is not recommended to pull a sailboat from the water for a hurricane, too much risk of falling off the stands.
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Old 01-10-2015, 13:10   #18
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Re: Hurricane Joaquin - head's up - Carolinas and Chesapeake

Any reports coming in from the Bahamas? Looks like it was just upgraded to a CAT 4.
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Sorry, Round Bay is not a hurricane hole.

I see what you mean, those creeks off the Severn are much more protected! The boatus guide said that many people moved their boats into the Severn, so I was hoping this was enough.

I'm on a very secure mooring in round bay that I inspected just a month ago, but I guess I have to choose between trusting the mooring in round bay vs the anchor in a creek. Right now I can even see the boat from my house!

Thanks for all the tips everyone. Hopefully it will stay out.


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Old 01-10-2015, 13:12   #20
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Re: Hurricane Joaquin - head's up - Carolinas and Chesapeake

I think BoatUS would disagree about hauling a boat, since they pay for half the haul if you are in the target. They have an awful lot of data. They would only pay for this if they didn't lose money on it.

In fact, it is they first thing the recommend. It's worth it for anyone to take a look at their recommendations:

Hurricane Damage Avoidance - Hurricane Center - BoatUS

Good luck all.
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Now a cat 4
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A great article on how to prepare from a guy that helps fix the carnage:

"Safe Harbor"* by David Pascoe - Hurricane Preparation for boats,

NOTE: it is not recommended to pull a sailboat from the water for a hurricane, too much risk of falling off the stands.
There's much wisdom in David Pascoe's article about Hurricane Preparation; however, there's a couple of points about anchoring that I would disagree with. His observations are centered upon SE Florida and a very high concentration of development, many boats and cement bulkheads. I believe that most locations for anchoring in this area are very risky. When he described the Coco Plum marina experience he was identifying the characteristics of a more safe hurricane anchorage. That would be a location with very little fetch in all directions. In addition, shallow depth; good holding; well inland; higher surrounding topography or trees; forgiving shorelines without rock or cement or docks; little debris and few or no other boats are desirable criteria.

These conditions are more often available in less developed cruising areas like North Florida and up throughout the Chesapeake.

I should add that I am NOT recommending anchoring out for tropical systems. I have had good experiences with anchoring in hurricane holes on numerous occasions, but it might not be the right choice for everyone. I also accepted long ago that we may lose our boat anytime for many possible reasons, but we've done well aboard for over four decades in the "hurricane zone".
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I see what you mean, those creeks off the Severn are much more protected! The boatus guide said that many people moved their boats into the Severn, so I was hoping this was enough.

I'm on a very secure mooring in round bay that I inspected just a month ago, but I guess I have to choose between trusting the mooring in round bay vs the anchor in a creek. Right now I can even see the boat from my house!

Thanks for all the tips everyone. Hopefully it will stay out.


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If you have a "good mooring" and good pendants stick with it. As long as someone can't drag and hit you. If the mooring is good the ground tackle is probably better than you can throw over the side.
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Re: Hurricane Joaquin - head's up - Carolinas and Chesapeake

The likelihood now is that it is NOT coming ashore (Of course not certain yet, but quite high probability) until nova scotia
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Re: Hurricane Joaquin - head's up - Carolinas and Chesapeake

Glad I left mine on the mooring, up a creek, in Pamlico Sound area. I am moving aboard but delayed it for storm season. I'd be looking for a place to stay now, and I'm coming to grips with the reality of living aboard while working.

Pleased to see models pushing it offshore nonetheless.

Hudson Force, I've only anchored in Pungo Creek there and only in fair weather. That creek is open to the NE and there are better options in the area. Even River Dunes is a decent option if you felt like tying up for a few nights, but plenty of creeks around although I'm recalling you have a big boat, and potentially a deep draft.?

I'm also not giving advice, and reluctant to spout about all the storms I've anchored through or swung on the mooring. Stripping the canvas, having all elements of the tackle inspected and to spec, chafe protection in place, removing bower anchors while moored, and a lot of luck have seen me through.

I'm clearly in favor of anchoring or mooring, although hauling out is smart money for many. In active years, it is a pain to haul out several times. I prefer to strip the canvas and leave it on the mooring.

For the most part, docks are terrible in hurricanes. Squaring your hull to the wind, fixed to hard bits, and vulnerable to surge.
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Nancie and I left the Chesapeake earlier this week and crossed the Albemarle Sound yesterday. We're sitting in the Pungo River trying to decide where to hide just in case Joaquin takes the more westerly track. I'll choose one of the creeks that is protected from the east and for winds backing across to the north and west. I'm waiting for tomorrow's report before stripping off the windage.
I made that same trip a few weeks ago. Good luck and God Bless!
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Hudson Force, I've only anchored in Pungo Creek there and only in fair weather. That creek is open to the NE and there are better options in the area. Even River Dunes is a decent option if you felt like tying up for a few nights, but plenty of creeks around although I'm recalling you have a big boat, and potentially a deep draft.? ........................
Yes, I agree with your observations. When I said we are sitting in the Pungo River and thinking about safe places to anchor, we are looking at an area within about sixty or seventy miles. We're heading out tomorrow for another area. Scranton Creek near here has good protection, but a lot of waterline stumps from former logging. Slade creek has potential, but I'm not familiar with it. Bath, off the Pamlico River has merit, but there are too many boats there. With our 4'3" draft on our 41' boat we excel at poking way up the protected creeks.

We have a place picked out about forty miles away that we've been in before and it should do us well.
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Another risk is being lost in the woods!




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Levi Cleans latest video has just been uploaded.

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