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Old 26-01-2014, 05:45   #61
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Re: How to avoid being killed?

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I believe the actual quote is "The best defense is a good offense".
Or as Zee once stated on this forum, "the best defense is to be offensive."
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Or as Zee once stated on this forum, "the best defense is to be offensive."
unfortunately it is difficult to dress down an oyster..lol.. but i found so far that by not cleaning my boat mirror shiny and not living grandiosely and not showing any sign of money..lol i aint got none to flaunt...that the folks good or bad are not tempted, as it looks as if i have the nothing i actually do have. and i certainly do not have anything they might want.
would be nice to have good led spreader lights..before i leave here i will have those also, so i can have a good well lighted platform for them to steal from instead of a dark incognito arena.....
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Or as Zee once stated on this forum, "the best defense is to be offensive."
Hard to be offensive if caught off guard asleep.
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Re: How to avoid being killed?

if one can sleep like the proverbial log when on watch, then one does not belong out here does one.
so much happens when you turn off your inner mental survival instinct.
it is mandatory to maintain that to survive.
this is not an easy lifestyle by any means unless you have more bux than branes, then it still comes down to survival and surviving.
avoidance is a tool.
survival is a goal.
enjoyment is an end product of it all.
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If the whole point of this thread is to avoid getting killed while cruising...then most people are missing the boat. By far and wide the most danger is on the boat.

Specifically they are:
The boom
The fuel
Anchoring too close to shore
Sailing too close to reefs and land
Ignoring the weather
Bringing a "guest" aboard who happens to have a boyfriend.

I happen to have a boat with no boom and I use kayaks that don't tempt the locals so much. I have never had a kayak stolen. Paddles yes. Right at the yacht club in front of the guard desk.
Pbmaise - Exactly! These are the real risks. A boom preventer will protect you more than a Glock will.
I am amazed how people get so paranoid of being attacked when they are traveling. Use basic common sense and the risk is minuscule. You guys are watching far too much television.
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You guys are watching far too much television.
Really?? I just finished watching real life drama unfold from my kitchen window here in Massachusetts minutes ago. I needed to call 911 because a crazed woman was trying to break down my next door neigbor's front door. I needed to call a second time after 6 minutes as the situation got worse and more people became involved. The neighbors were surprisingly calm throughout the entire episode as it continued to escalate over the 12-15 minutes it took the police to finally arrive, by then, the crazed woman and her associates had left.

We live only 150 meters from the police station.

I know the police hate this sort of domestic situation/fight, and routinely finish their cup of java and donuts before deciding on who will take the call.

When you live in a large city or on a boat... you're on your own when things get out of control. You're a fool if you think the police or another cruiser is going to come help you when some bad guys show up unexpected.
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Re: How to avoid being killed?

do not tempt things to initiate in first lace. do not flaunt any sign of possessions..it isbad enough to own a boat..that is immeasurable wealth down here..
do not parade around wearing jewelry and fancy clothing.
do not go dead asleep.
ever.
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1) Don't be female.
2) Don't marry a man.
3) Be selective about the friends and family you invite into life.

Congrats, have now dropped odds down by 90%. Now for those Ninja trained Nuns etc.............
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Re: How to avoid being killed?

These threads should really be re-titled "what's the best comfort blanket?" as folks only want something that lets them sleep soundly at night, and with the only requirement for many being not requiring any thought nor effort by selves..............the benefits of whatever they decide on being very much secondary, or delusionary


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No matter how many you have......
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Pbmaise - Exactly! These are the real risks. A boom preventer will protect you more than a Glock will.
I am amazed how people get so paranoid of being attacked when they are traveling. Use basic common sense and the risk is minuscule. You guys are watching far too much television.
With you 100%
Put it into to some sort of perspective, a boat is much more likely to kill you than some nutter local.
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Re: How to avoid being killed?

I took martial art when I was 20 and did for 5 years.....I had a gun to my head...gave them what they wanted. which was money.....walked away from that one....had a drunk started a fight with me and I wanted no part...but I broke his arm and walked a way without calling the police...if in boat..and no where to go....fight for your life, because u don't know if they will kill u.....think about that....
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Re: How to avoid being killed?

You are going to die. Get over it. The only questions are how you are going to live and how/when you are going to die. Brave or afraid, death comes to all of us. The likelihood that your death will be the result of violence is exceedingly small; it is far more likely that an accident or heart attack will take you than a violent attack. That is not an argument against taking precautions - you certainly should - but put things in perspective and do not live in fear of something so unlikely. But still it might happen...

When I was in Trinidad in 1996 a 70 year old American woman was killed. She was a very nice person, looking forward to an Atlantic crossing. She was in the habit of walking the 5 miles up the road to the north shore, and return, in an undeveloped area of the old US Navy base at Chaguaramas. For months she took this walk, and for months locals and cruisers alike warned her that this was a dangerous area to be in, even driving a car, but she was too free a spirit to be cowed. Then one day she didn't return - her body was found a week or two later and the perpetrator was quickly caught. Of course this was a terrible tragedy and had a great impact on the cruisers. It seems to me that there are two perspectives one might take on this: the first is that it wouldn't have happened had she simply taken the good advice she had been given, and the second is that she had lived for 70 years without fear of the world. Was her life better in some sense because of her choices? It seems to me that while mourning the loss we might well celebrate the life.

My own choice is to take reasonable precautions and then to get on with things without fear. There certainly have been times when I was afraid, and that was my cue to get the hell out of there. But I refuse to live in fear, and particularly of something that is so unlikely (but still possible).

We each have to make our choices, hopefully informed.

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It was just a matter of time before someone turned this into a gun thread
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It was just a matter of time before someone turned this into a gun thread
Gun? What gun?
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