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Old 07-09-2016, 08:50   #16
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Robert Redford can do even while in his 70s. I know as I watched the film.
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I've Never used a Tether.. and when the time comes that I feel I need one to move safely around deck.. I'll know that's the time to retire from the sea and set up a Yurt by the beach..
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Never had it happen but I've thought my way through it. I drag a line, it's a B737 cockpit escape rope, about 40' long. It has enlarged handholds, the size equivalent of a knot on the last 20'. It's made for a pilot to lower himself out a cockpit window to the ground. I keep a rope ladder tied up on the stern that I could reach if being dragged. Haven't had to use it yet but I think it would give me a chance. At 6 knots, I would have 4 seconds to grab it before the end.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

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Never had it happen but I've thought my way through it. I drag a line, it's a B737 cockpit escape rope, about 40' long. It has enlarged handholds, the size equivalent of a knot on the last 20'. It's made for a pilot to lower himself out a cockpit window to the ground. I keep a rope ladder tied up on the stern that I could reach if being dragged. Haven't had to use it yet but I think it would give me a chance. At 6 knots, I would have 4 seconds to grab it before the end.
This has also been discussed in other threads, and some have tried it in benign conditions. As I recall the conclusion was that 4 seconds isn't enough to get your head above water and get your bearings, let alone find and grab a line.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I was singlehanding 30 years ago in the Coral sea beating to weather in a 28ft Twister with hanked on #1headsail. The breeze was freshening so I ran along the port weather deck let go the jib halyard at the mast and continued to the pulpit where I was thrown over the bow as the boat was coming up from a wave trough. I remember thinking how warm the water was!! On surfacing I put my arms up and the boat came down on top of me my hands slid up to the toerail. The bow then rose up in the air as it was hobbyhorsing and not going fast as it was luffing too. I was able to clamber on deck and crawl back along the deck to review my life. I still never wear a harness.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

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DO NOT try this tethered, even with crew onboard. As it's a good way to drown. Even if they slow the boat to 2kts & you're tethered to it, along side, you'll be lucky to survive.
There are plenty of tests by sailing magazines & similar which show as much, via their testing. Ditto on one or two CF members who've experienced it.


As to the original question. Remember what it was like when you were first learning how to waterski? Nuff said
What he said.

I test lots of stuff and I would touch this on a bet.

That said, I've been saved by my tether many, many times. This winter I was testing drogues (many types for PS Mag) in near gale conditions. I often had some of the lifelines open and I got thrown that way countless times. The problem with testing drogues is that it is difficult to hold on while recovering (perhaps normally you would wait for better weather, but that was not an option). I was also single handing. The tether did its job, letting me go no farther than the edge. I use tethers made from climbing rope, so the catch is gentle.

So make sure you have a good tether system.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

A friend of ours went overboard while tethered. He nearly drowned. His crew slept down below completely unaware and the boat dragged him for miles.

His leash was just too long.

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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Told by a man I worked with. Two couples sailing Gulf Stream ,rough but tolerable conditions ,everybody relaxed untethered in the cockpit. Big sudden wave pooped the whole boat and now there were three. Long search but no joy.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Wow. Great information. I have wondered about this many times. It seems it would be fatal in most incidences. At least a few of you have lived to tell how you got back on board. When I was crossing the Atlantic, with almost no wind, Ellie tied a rope around her waist and went swimming. Even moving at only 2 knots it was pulling her quite hard. And suddenly there were hundreds of fish surrounding her, wanting to check out this body in the water. Good time to go fishing I suppose.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I have been in several situations where I needed to release from my tether under pressure if I did not have this type of shackle it would have been impossible. PS my Jack lines are set from bow to stern inside my Stroud's and my tether is under 6 feet long so I don't have to unclip and I can reach everywhere on my boat. But hopefully would be kept out of the water if swept overboard.
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

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Never had it happen but I've thought my way through it. I drag a line, it's a B737 cockpit escape rope, about 40' long. It has enlarged handholds, the size equivalent of a knot on the last 20'. It's made for a pilot to lower himself out a cockpit window to the ground. I keep a rope ladder tied up on the stern that I could reach if being dragged. Haven't had to use it yet but I think it would give me a chance. At 6 knots, I would have 4 seconds to grab it before the end.
Try it some time under a controlled situation! If you can catch the line and hold on I'll give you a dollar! Send photos!
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A friend of ours went overboard while tethered. He nearly drowned. His crew slept down below completely unaware and the boat dragged him for miles.

His leash was just too long.

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I don't use standard length tethers. They are nearly always wrong.

My short leg is shorter, and my long leg is longer.
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Never had it happen but I've thought my way through it. I drag a line, it's a B737 cockpit escape rope, about 40' long. It has enlarged handholds, the size equivalent of a knot on the last 20'. It's made for a pilot to lower himself out a cockpit window to the ground. I keep a rope ladder tied up on the stern that I could reach if being dragged. Haven't had to use it yet but I think it would give me a chance. At 6 knots, I would have 4 seconds to grab it before the end.
This is a pipe dream.... you will never be able to grab your rope loops and pull yourself aboard. Where did you get the idea that this would work?
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Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

This is a well known case and been discussed before. But still a good example.

Body set adrift in liferaft - Yachting World

A man overboard on a tether. His brother, still on the boat, could not get him back aboard. He died. His brother, now alone, had to set his body adrift tied to a life raft with an EPIRB in it. Think on that scene a minute.

Even having other crew aboard may not save you. It wouldn't take long to drown being drug
along at 6 knots.
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