Originally Posted by barnakiel
I accept this. And I can hear what you are saying. I also agree with a larger portion of what you are saying.
How many times have you been well offshore in sustained 40 or 50 knots of wind? I have been a couple of times.
I would not bet any money
on my ability to quickly gybe or tack an average 40 footer set up for the wind of 40+ knots and fully developed sea state. Not sure if I qualify as a competent sailor nor a fairly experienced one. The way I feel it every time the wind reaches 40 knots I feel marginally competent and fairly inexperienced ... ;-)
I have extensively sailed racing
boats round the cans before we started sailing offshore. Sure thing, with a boat set up for rapid and random maneuvers (as one is on the harbour, on the coastal hops or between the cans) it is no problem to execute any MOB operation with great accuracy, also in rough conditions.
But I am less convinced these truths are easily translatable into MOB practice in open waters and with a cruising crew.
I hear you.
My arbitrary controlled gybe cut-off limit in knots is LOA
in feet. Beyond that I usually chicken gybe (tack from a broad reach through the wind and onto the opposite broad reach).
Not that one can't gybe in higher, it's just too hard on the boat if one screws up.
I agree that once one hits this wind range, sailing maneuvers become more "serious". ie, it is important to execute them well.
In my experience, the windspeed limit (in knots) for sailing to windward is about 25% higher than LOA
In my opinion, it is actually dangerous to run the engine
in these conditions.
Too likely to suck up stuff off the bottom of the tank or heel so much the engine
isn't getting sufficient lubrication.
cruising boats in LO PHRF, short course and long distance.
Certainly a cruising boat is not generally as nimble, but I can't imagine why one could not sail it properly in these conditions, unless there is something seriously wrong like:
1. Lack of skill.
3. Not rigged properly.
4. Blown out sails
5. Not trimmed properly.
6. Stuff not being stowed safely.
7. Not maintained properly.
These are not the natural limits of the boat, they are the self-imposed limits the owner has established, which could prove to be a safety