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Jammer Six · 27-10-2013, 00:02

If you don't know, leave it home.

Group9 · 27-10-2013, 07:02

Without getting into every state's laws, it has been my experience that anywhere on the ICW from Texas to North Carolina, you are probably going to be okay with having a firearm on board (and Virginia is probably starting to head north in their views on this). Anywhere from Maryland on up, you are not going to be okay with a firearm on board.

The northern states are very, very strict in enforcement of their gun laws and they have lots of them to enforce. The southern states, not so much.

salticrak · 27-10-2013, 07:55

**minaret** · 27-10-2013, 08:14

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Originally Posted by salticrak

Weird. An unloaded, suppressed AR getting ruined in the sand. What a waste.

MBLittle · 27-10-2013, 08:18

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Originally Posted by salticrak

Israel?

MBLittle · 27-10-2013, 08:18

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Originally Posted by minaret

Weird. An unloaded, suppressed AR getting ruined in the sand. What a waste.

It's actually not suppressed. What looks like a suppressor is actually just a space in a lounge chair leg. That's the real shame

pbiJim · 27-10-2013, 08:22

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Originally Posted by hellosailor

" In a car, a properly encased, unloaded firearm, put away out of arms reach, should be able to be legally carried THROUGH any state, if ..."

Nope. While there's an old USSC case that says travelers are entitled to travel with arms (from stagewagon days) you will now find that some or many states require any firearm to be in a LOCKED COMPARTMENT (glove box, trunk) if there is one in the car, and a locked case if there is no locked compartment available.

"But, again, you must research all local and state laws. And read..."
Precisely.

Although I hear some CongressCritter has once again sponsored some legislation to require all states to honor all firearms carry permits from their sister states, as that pesky old Constitution requires.

Actually, that verbiage about "locked in the trunk, etc", is from a 1980's era amendment to the gun control act of 1968. Firearm Owners Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That federal law succeeds state laws for a person in transit through a state. Once you stop in a particular state, then the state law takes over.

That aside,

Florida is pretty gun friendly. Here there is a 3-step rule for people who do not have permits & also exemptions for carrying guns while engaged in specific activities, like fishing. Florida permits are also easy to get for law abiding citizens & can be applied for by mail. To request the mail-in CCW package, call area code 850 then 245.5691. This carry permit has pretty good reciprocity with other states, but there are several that still do not honor it, so you need to read the list.

pbiJim · 27-10-2013, 08:30

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Originally Posted by zboss

My firearms instructor was a secret service agent and federal air marshal and said the same thing... basically, you can fly with your weapon without declaring it if you place one piece in one checked bag and another in a different checked bag. Legally, when a firearm is split like that it no longer qualifies as a firearm.

Actually, the frame of a firearm qualifies as a firearm.

Despite this, it is perfectly legal for a US citizen who legally owns a firearm to check it in his luggage when flying. The gun needs to be locked in a hard sided case & unloaded.

Limitations on quantity vary by airline. The last time that I checked, Continental allowed up to 2 long guns, 5 hand guns, 11 pounds of properly packaged ammo, 1 small tool kit, 1 suppressor, & 1 shooting mat.

Loose powder, primers & caps are not allowed at all.

You need to declare the firearm to the airline agent when you check your luggage. At that time, they are supposed to inspect the firearm to be sure that it is not loaded.

I have flown with firearms many times without pulling out any L.E.O. credentials.

You do need to concern yourself with the laws of the state where you land. Hawaii for one, requires you to register your firearm with local authorities shortly after you arrive. Clark County NV is like that too.

pbiJim · 27-10-2013, 08:39

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Originally Posted by atoll

wouldn't it be easier to just fed-ex the firearm to florida!

That is also a viable option. The only time I had trouble doing this was when I tried to send one from NJ & the Fed Ex facility in NJ would not accept the package.

It is illegal for anyone not holding a Federal Firearms License to send a gun through the US mail, but Fed-Ex & UPS are both OK.

pbiJim · 27-10-2013, 08:41

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Originally Posted by FrankZ

It would need to be sent overnight to a FFL, who will charge for the service to transfer the firearm back to you.

Not true. You are allowed to ship guns to yourself in a different state. The FFL is needed when you transfer guns to another person. Also, a FFL in a state that is not contiguous to the state of your residence can not transfer a gun to you. For instance, a Florida FFL can not transfer a gun to a North Carolina resident.

pbiJim · 27-10-2013, 08:46

A good general reference for the traveler who has guns in the US -

Gunlaws for the 50 States

bobconnie · 27-10-2013, 08:56

If yall would just get a pump shotgun and forget the fancy handguns Ya might just have a few less problems !! both with the crooks yall are worryied about and the LAW !! Ive carried a shotgun for years and even a rifle a few times for hunting in Mexico, and really never had a problem !! just a thought !!