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Old 26-03-2009, 01:51   #1
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Flare-guns and other alternatives (excluding guns) as weapons

I recall some time ago (2 yrs maybe) there was a thread on some sailing forum (on this one, or SSCA, or Sailnet... my first guess is it was on Sailnet) but I don't recall which one. It was a lengthy discussion on other weapon options other than guns, which included as I recall how to use flare guns, camelflouging shot gun shells for this purpose, etc

In light of the latest tragedy in Thailand, and one who currently lives in NZ so am well aware of Peter Blake being dead likely because he carried a gun (pls no debate on that), this latest tragedy reminded me of that old thread.

I'm interested in learning more about the Flare Gun option, or for that matter other options cruisers have used (other than guns and a machete). If anyone knows of the thread I am referring to, I would appreciate having a copy of it or be able to access it. I'm also intersted in learning about other alternatives cruisers have had on board (again other than guns).

Again, and at the risk of repeating myself, I'm NOT AT ALL interested in starting another "guns-no guns" debate.

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Old 26-03-2009, 05:49   #2
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There was a thread here about a year ago that included discussions of non-lethal ways to enhance safety in anchorages...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...afe-14565.html
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Follows several previous discussions that might bear on your query.

Security systems, locking gadgets, theft prevention/deterrents, etc.
Security systems, locking gadgets, theft prevention/deterents, etc.

From Guns to Active Intelligent Preventative Techniques

From Guns to Active Intelligent Preventitive Techniques

Ways women cruising/anchoring alone can feel safe?

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...afe-14565.html

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Improvised Weapons

If not a 'firearm' then?

If not a 'firearm' then?
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Don't even think of trying a real shell in a flare gun.

"I'm interested in learning more about the Flare Gun option, or for that matter other options cruisers have used (other than guns and a machete). If anyone knows of the thread I am referring to, I would appreciate having a copy of it or be able to access it. I'm also intersted in learning about other alternatives cruisers have had on board (again other than guns)"

I wish I could remember the test result site, but anyway, the coast guard did some testing of flare guns using live ammunition. They had those adapters that are sold so you can load a round of real ammunition when it is mounted into the flare gun. They also tried firing real shotgun shells. They found that the flare guns literally fell apart when used with live ammunition. There was more danger to the user of the flare gun than anything. It was also pointed out that attempting to use one of these adapters in a flare gun was not only foolish, but dangerous and illegal.
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Get your self a military 37mm launcher. You can buy all sorts of flares and can load your own with almost anything. Looks like a grenade launcher. OK possession of lethal rounds make it a weapon. But just looks cool.
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Bad .. you know better. Five posts and 2 from staff to try and keep it germane and not degrade into a gun thread ... but BadSanta .. you just couldn't handle it. too bad... another thread closed.
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