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Old 29-01-2009, 14:11   #46
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The pulse is pretty short and your own capacitance allows a reasonable quantity of electrons to pass. The shock is certainly there as rubberised boots are not sufficient to stop some shock. It is certainly stronger if you have a good return circuit. Try holding onto a high tension lead even if standing on an inch of dry rubber.
Alright dag-burn-it..

I dont know how it works but it does...wanting to prove I was right and MarkJ was wrong I drug a wooden sawhorse over to my fence..got up on it and grabbed the wire..defintly got shocked..albeit not as healthy as wet socking feet on the ground..must have something to do with the above capacitance thingy.

So Mark I owe you an apoligy...now if you dont mind I have to go get some clean socks on.
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Old 29-01-2009, 14:48   #47
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got up on it and grabbed the wire..defintly got shocked..albeit not as healthy as wet socking feet on the ground.
The important question is did you lose any ideas of stealing cattle? Was the shock a credible threat?
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I dont know how it works but it does...wanting to prove I was right and MarkJ was wrong ....
So Mark I owe you an apoligy...now if you dont mind I have to go get some clean socks on.
Oh goodie I can bask in a pool of glory for a moment

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The electric fence idea is old technology. Take a look at Tasers, a more modern refinement of the same concept with better directionality, a little more horsepower, and a bit more discriminating.

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What happens when the harbor master or local fisherman stops by late to tell you that your anchor is dragging and that you are close to a coral head? This doesn't sound like a good way to get off on the right foot.
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While this thread is vaguely on topic let's not start going down the escalation path. It never goes well.

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Get a dog or a very agressive cat.
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Old 31-01-2009, 07:05   #53
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What happens when the harbor master or local fisherman stops by late to tell you that your anchor is dragging and that you are close to a coral head? This doesn't sound like a good way to get off on the right foot.
Surely if you can afford the juice to power the fence, you will have your GPS on with anchor alarm set. I personally can't imagine any legitimate reason for someone to climb over a fence to get on your boat uninvited. And if they tried, then a little zap would be preferable to a dog-bite or tacks in the foot.
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Surely if you can afford the juice to power the fence, you will have your GPS on with anchor alarm set. I personally can't imagine any legitimate reason for someone to climb over a fence to get on your boat uninvited. And if they tried, then a little zap would be preferable to a dog-bite or tacks in the foot.
I agree with Lodesman wholeheartedly. My boat is my castle, and nobody should board it unannounced. If they get shocked trying, it may teach them a valuable lesson.
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Surely if you can afford the juice to power the fence, you will have your GPS on with anchor alarm set. I personally can't imagine any legitimate reason for someone to climb over a fence to get on your boat uninvited. And if they tried, then a little zap would be preferable to a dog-bite or tacks in the foot.
We've boarded a boat when the crew was ashore to stop it dragging and ending up on the shore...I hope others would do the same for me.

Just a note...it was on Guam...I suspect some weddings were coming up and the crew was just doing there duty.....!
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If the crew's ashore, then how do they get back on board if the fence is up and electrified?
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We've boarded a boat when the crew was ashore to stop it dragging and ending up on the shore...I hope others would do the same for me.
We have done the same as well. Passive attack systems cut both ways.
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I have visited this thread from time to time and am amazed with which people feel the need to protect themselves right after decided to throw caution to the wind and go cruising. I wonder if Harry Pigeon or Bernard Moitessier read this thread, what they might say? Perhaps, stay home if you are afraid of being attacked.

GordMay:-I think the time has come for Cruisers' Psyc 101. It would be nice comparing notes.
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I have visited this thread from time to time and am amazed with which people feel the need to protect themselves right after decided to throw caution to the wind and go cruising. I wonder if Harry Pigeon or Bernard Moitessier read this thread, what they might say? Perhaps, stay home if you are afraid of being attacked.
What a simplistic and dismissive thing to say. Would you say the same thing about people wanting to take liferafts, epirbs and flares - perhaps, stay home if you are afraid of being wrecked.
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I have visited this thread from time to time and am amazed with which people feel the need to protect themselves right after decided to throw caution to the wind and go cruising. I wonder if Harry Pigeon or Bernard Moitessier read this thread, what they might say? Perhaps, stay home if you are afraid of being attacked.

GordMay:-I think the time has come for Cruisers' Psyc 101. It would be nice comparing notes.
One of the mechanisms evolved for risk analysis involves being able to think of an example. If you're told that the watering-hole is dangerous, it 'feels true' if you saw uncle Charley dragged off by alligators there last year. In the moden age of communications, we get all sorts of spectacular stories and visuals of danger (they grab attention, after all) that give us all 'examples' to think about, making us think things are more dangerous than they really are.

It's part of human nature to obsess over spectacular dangers that are unlikely, while being dismissive of the dangers that are likely. This is why people will willingly sleep with a taser under their pillow (I saw on TV that a home invasion happened in Seattle last week) while needing a law to stop them from talking/texting on their cell phone while driving.
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